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Post by hwsb » Mon May 18, 2009 8:21 am

Archangel wrote:Not racist.......just realist......
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As a matter of fact I do as I managed Executive Protection for one of the Big 3 for 11 years. I was there during conferences, meetings and at their homes. This was with the CEO and all the Board members. So I do have extensive knowledge in this area. And it isn't running into socialism's arms as you describe, It's suppose to be a loan like you get from a bank and you pay back. It's funny how you are looking at this as the taxpayers are just giving out a handout when it's just suppose to be a loan.
so not only is your viewpoint disingenuous, it's also emotionally biased. come on man, do you honestly think the government won't take a loss on this? it's impossible. this isn't a simple loan, this is the US government keeping a company solvent by purchasing a controlling share. that isn't a loan, it's a suicide pact. if these companies go tits up, we're out the money no matter what. there is no collateral. and no amount of advertising (or government incentives) is going to make a car company that sells gigantic gas-guzzling pieces of shit stay in business.
Ahhhhh......Let me guess.....Yer a Honda fanboy......Pfffffffffft.......
I like their trucks and some of their cars and so do many others.
uh no, i drive a '00 dodge neon with 140k miles on it. so guess again. my point regarding honda was that even though they exist in the same hostile market as the other (failing) car companies, they still only had ONE FISCAL QUARTER where they didn't show a profit. and once again, it isn't because they had superior advertising.
-I did have to claim your ignorance......you've done so well on your own.
-I've never said anything about my buddies......
-If anyone has been insulting it's been you.
-You must feel inferior or threatened in regards to that last statement.
The thread (not post) was started to enlighten those that did not know or were not informed.
jesus christ. epic troll is epic.

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Post by [GU]Twinkie » Tue May 19, 2009 6:55 am

TY Zombie for the injection of sainty (I think they need a referie or a time out) rofl
p.s. hwsb Dodge is owned and started by Nissan just fyi :D
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Post by Archangel » Tue May 19, 2009 10:06 am

If you read from the start of the thread.......It started out as just a comparative FYI.......Then hwsb started in with his crazy responses.......
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Post by ZombieSlayer » Tue May 19, 2009 1:14 pm

[GU]Twinkie wrote: p.s. hwsb Dodge is owned and started by Nissan just fyi :D
Ummm wrong :D

Dodge was started in the early 1900's by 2 brothers in the U.S.A. Then sold in the 20's or 30's to Chrysler (or Daimen Chrysler I forget which).
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Post by [GU]Twinkie » Tue May 19, 2009 3:07 pm

Not what was said on history channel but do not belive everything told by them or wiki either will take your word for it :D
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Post by hwsb » Tue May 19, 2009 5:21 pm

crazy responses, eh archangel? you were doing so well too.

since you don't want to refute my arguments period, much less in a logical fashion, just do one thing: say to me (with a straight face) that you think the big three will turn a profit without a major change in their business model. or wait, even better: that the big three will turn a profit simply with more advertising. LOL!

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Post by Archangel » Tue May 19, 2009 6:39 pm

hwsb wrote:crazy responses, eh archangel? you were doing so well too.

since you don't want to refute my arguments period, much less in a logical fashion, just do one thing: say to me (with a straight face) that you think the big three will turn a profit without a major change in their business model. or wait, even better: that the big three will turn a profit simply with more advertising. LOL!
You miss the whole point of the thread.......it's about how the government bitches about how much they spend on advertising then go about passing a Bill to spend $20 mil to immigrate Palestinians into the US. It's a where's your priorities issues. And have you priced advertising lately? It also wasn't about business model either.
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Post by ZombieSlayer » Wed May 20, 2009 12:46 am

[GU]Twinkie wrote:Not what was said on history channel but do not belive everything told by them or wiki either will take your word for it :D
I used to think the History channel was awesome (and still do most of the time), but they fudge up their facts a lot more lately :(

http://www.rootdig.com/dodge_brothers.html

http://virtualology.com/virtualpublicli ... DODGE.COM/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0814332463
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Post by [GU]Twinkie » Wed May 20, 2009 1:24 am

I stand corected (thats what i get for vegieing in front of the tube too much) :D :D
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Post by Archangel » Wed May 20, 2009 7:53 am

ZombieSlayer wrote:
[GU]Twinkie wrote:Not what was said on history channel but do not belive everything told by them or wiki either will take your word for it :D
I used to think the History channel was awesome (and still do most of the time), but they fudge up their facts a lot more lately :(

http://www.rootdig.com/dodge_brothers.html

http://virtualology.com/virtualpublicli ... DODGE.COM/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0814332463
Yeah, shows like those , you have to remember that they are produced for entertainment value and that those that are tasked with research often have little, if not NO KNOWLEDGE in the area they are researching. My brother-in-law and myself often watch the Military Channel and find discrepancies in their shows.
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