Please help

[Mr_N_Pants]

I would just like to point out, re the original few posts, that there is currently NO GAS SHORTAGE. What we have is pricejacking, by OPEC and associates. There is nothing compared to the '70s version of actually being out of oil - which we were - due to... wait for it... OPEC!

We have all the oil products that the refineries can produce, there aren't enough refineries! I also agree that there is a limit to the amount of oil producable. I also disagree that we are way, way, past the "peak oil" thing. With the advent of new, energy efficient technology, we probably have enough oil in the ground to last forever with the energy gains that are being found on a regular basis.

So meh... WE, the US of A can fix our problems, but we are already second to oil users like China as far as polluters. Not everybody will play the same way.

And gas going up? OPEC! They even offered to send us more oil... How nice of them.

Also, keep in mind the standard for oil shortages, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which is NOT being tapped due to "oil shortages". That's a clue.

Global warming... well... we ARE doing *a little bit* to add some warmth. But you know... the sun is hot. Several other planets are having higher recorded heat that has been measured in the past. Think about it.

[Von_Kill_You]

I figured that most people realize what a scam CO2 emmisions as a pollutant is a scam. Yes I do want the enviroment to improve. If you trully believe in the religion of global warming im truly sorry and i hope we can still be friends in the game.

Here are some links to help.

http://www.petitionproject.org/index.html

9,021 phd's signed this

If you have seen al gores movie here is another that disproves everything in his movie

http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/
OR UTUBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDI2NVTY ... =rec-fresh

Here is the Polor Bear Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKAC4kfH ... re=related

Did you know that the Great Lakes was made by Arctic Ice? It warmed up to create the lakes and there were no cars or factories to emmit CO2.

Why do you hear the word Climate Change now instead of Global Warming? Because the ocean is changing and they are predicting another 15 years of cooling.

Did you know a massive Ice Breaking Ship just got stuck in the Arctic?

Did you know about the socialistic, communistic, marxist, movement behind global warming?

Did you know in all the global warming studies don't include factors of the sun and the sun's solar flare activities.

Did you know the ever expanding hole in the atmosphere is not there anymore?

Did you know that malaria was almost gone untill DDT was banned? Now millions of people have died from a disease that was almost wiped out? It was banned because of a scare book. The book was disproven but we still have ddt banned.

Do you know about the biast in the school system?

www.indoctrinate-u.com

[1800]

First off, no one here is a scientist (or at least that i know of)...and probably wouldn't post of this forum if he/she was. That being the assumed case, almost everything that everyone states here is subject to be judged as sheer bullshit from any one or more persons. Even what i think about all of this mess could be bullshit, because I DON'T KNOW. With that out of the way, let me tell you what i have "heard" (could be bullshit).

1. In 100 years, the average temperature of our planet has only risen about .6 degree. If this is true, then we only really have a way of comparing ourselves to the last 100 years of temperature change. Whats to say that it wont go down .6 degree in the next 100 years. Global warming is a theory. It is based mainly on projections and not on facts. In that regard, i think it is bullshit because people play it to be fact that we are cursed with impending doom due to global warming.
Do I believe that we should just be nasty censored on this planet and not care about the consequences of our actions for using fossil fuels or pollutants? Absolutely not, but i don't believe that it is fiskally resposible for our government to spend billions and billions of dollars on "research" to explore space at this point in our economy. We have a war going on, all time high in gasoline prices. Housing market is in the shitter etc etc etc.
I dont have a problem with space programs, but i think a mature government that cares about its country would post pone all un-needed funding for things that do not effect the "now" of our country.



2. I dont know how many people here have a business degree or manage a business, but i DO know this from personal experience being a manager. Profit margins do not equate to profit made.
Example 1. I am an oil company that wants to make 20% gross profit on a barrel of gas. Oil costs me $5.00 a barrel (not including refining fees).
That would retail to a customer for $6.25 per per barrel of gas. I made 20% profit.
Example 2. 2 years later, oil costs me $50.00 per barrel. I still want to 20% profit off of that barrel, but the retail end result is 62.50 per barrel.
MY censored GOD!!!!! YOU STUPID ASS OIL COMPANIES!!!! I CANT BELIEVE YOUR GREEDY ASSES ARE RIPPING US ALL OFF!!!!

And then you get smart and realize a few things about the gas and oil business. Oil costs them more for them, so it costs more for you. Yes they are going to show record high for profit, because the demand is also much higher than what it was 2 years ago. Yes the liberal media in this country does not tell you about Windfall Taxes that have cost and WILL cost (probably by the end of this year or beginning of next year) oil companies millions of dollars (IN FINES) for making TOO MUCH PROFIT! That is a socialistic way to treat people and companies: small or big. Socialism is not democracy and it is not freedom of capitalism.

Finally, the EPA,economists,DEQ,liberals,hippies,tree hugers, and whatever else you want to call them do not want another refinery to go up in our country. Well DING! We learn that supply and demand is the another reason for gas increase. If all of my refineries are operating 24/7 365, I (as an oil company) have to pay people overtime constantly, maintain machines, and work indefinately with no way to operate at a efficient level without paying out the ass. I dont believe that anyone here would agree with the idea that you should work for your companies for free when it comes to overtime, just so the customer doesn't have to fit the bill for YOUR extra time invested into that company.

[Mr_N_Pants]

I dont have a problem with space programs, but i think a mature government that cares about its country would post pone all un-needed funding for things that do not effect the "now" of our country.

Whew, it's a good thing we aren't spending more than $15 billion on NASA out of the 904 TRILLION DOLLAR debt.

http://www.federalbudget.com/

[Archangel]

Haha........Liberals always want to punish success........and reward failure...

In other words, tax the rich.........and give it to the poor (welfare).....

[+SaiN+]

Haha........Liberals always want to punish success........and reward failure...

In other words, tax the rich.........and give it to the poor (welfare).....

liberal

I find it quite amusing how ridiculously successful the current administration have successfully destroyed the term "Liberal" to a point where people throw it around as an insult-- Much like how the word "commie" came about, like some sort of modern-day neo-McCarthyism.. Me personally, I like to keep my options open.. I don't believe in party loyalty and I tend to share beliefs from both sides of the isle. Until a strong enough set of evidence is presented to me to change my mind, I swallow my pride and do so.

Anyway.. Tax the rich? never works.. All they'll really do is make it up by charging more for their business to pick up from that and pass it onto everyone below them. Me personally, I'm more concerned about how much influence and say Big Business has in politics.. Too much dirty deeds go about. :\

[Von_Kill_You]

The goverment needs to be cut big time. Has anyone read about the FAIR TAX . Awsome! Get rid of the IRS. Get rid of billions in Conpliance costs. Keep 100 % of your paycheck! Make it easier for busnesses to make decisions. I'm tottaly sold on it. That is the first step that needs to be done. The second Is open up the energy market by stopping the insane regulations that make it impossible for energy companies to reinvest into energy. I could go on and on with real differences. Obama's "Change" is SUPER BIG GOVERMENT AND MASSIVE REGULATIONS. Mc Cain doesn't offer much good either. Considering voting for BOB BARR because at least i can send a message to them, But will that put Obama in office? That is scary. Ron Paul was Marginalized by MSM and Conservative Media. That was sad. Didn't like his 9/11 Conspiracy kook's and his pro drug stance but he had a lot of other good stuff going for him.

[Von_Kill_You]

Over 50% of the Lobiests in Washington is to lobby special consideration in the TAX CODE. That is one of the reasons i support the FAIR TAX or a flat tax.

[+SaiN+]

The goverment needs to be cut big time. Has anyone read about the FAIR TAX . Awsome! Get rid of the IRS. Get rid of billions in Conpliance costs. Keep 100 % of your paycheck! Make it easier for busnesses to make decisions. I'm tottaly sold on it. That is the first step that needs to be done. The second Is open up the energy market by stopping the insane regulations that make it impossible for energy companies to reinvest into energy. I could go on and on with real differences. Obama's "Change" is SUPER BIG GOVERMENT AND MASSIVE REGULATIONS. Mc Cain doesn't offer much good either. Considering voting for BOB BARR because at least i can send a message to them, But will that put Obama in office? That is scary. Ron Paul was Marginalized by MSM and Conservative Media. That was sad. Didn't like his 9/11 Conspiracy kook's and his pro drug stance but he had a lot of other good stuff going for him.

I'm definitely for it. I also liked the messages Ron Paul had myself. I'd totally vote for him in a heartbeat since I agreed with a lot of what he had to say. Unfortunately, people have painted him as a loony.. We either have McCain or Obama now. -Nod- In a nutshell, I'm not happy with the past 7-8 years.

[1800]

I dont have a problem with space programs, but i think a mature government that cares about its country would post pone all un-needed funding for things that do not effect the "now" of our country.

Whew, it's a good thing we aren't spending more than $15 billion on NASA out of the 904 TRILLION DOLLAR debt.

http://www.federalbudget.com/

Its attitude like that which is why we ARE where we ARE.