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still isn't fair that we have to lose years of work on a level

there is a way to reset your stats, should you want to reset to play at an easier, or more fun level... use your option to reset it.... or add a new player to your profiles and start a new one.....

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ok so i have a question ...right now the monsters adapt to the level of the players right, making it harder for lower level player to make kills ......even if u adjust the monster level so it is that bit easier for lower level players to kill wont it still end up the way it is now if a higher level player joins ....yes it might b easier but still b a strugle for the lower player right?.
i might b getting wires crossed here as im on meds hahaha.

to b honest like someone posted if the levels do get reset yes some r going to b pretty pissed off as they will have no perks in the game and have to build them back up which ...me included have taken a long time to gain but as kyle said we r only getting 1 point a killl ....so another question ....if it does get reset do we get more points per kill?... but when levels get high again will it end up being 1 point a kill again?

for those of us that have been here since the start of the server ...how many r still playing i mean ive been here yrs and yes ive had my levels lost a couple times but the point is im still here cos i love playing this game and love playing on this server ...ive made friends along the way ...helped ppl out ....ppl have helped me out and not just in the game with wops but with information for and about the game and also needed in real life ......kyle u know what im on about hahah.
my point is we all love this game and we are all here to have fun ....it doesnt matter if levels get wiped cos we will just have fun getting them back ..... its a place to have some fun ...get away from the drama that going on in our lives for a few hours ...have a laugh with other players .

im not voting as my levels have been dropped a few times but its no biggie im still here and i still have fun so which ever way it goes im game.

thats my rant over hahaha

You know, for all the players that whine about the server being hard to play, how come so many new players have come aboard and are doing quite well at leveling?

hehe.. just when i wrote about bumping old posts

guess they still discuss what to do, so atm i cant tell if or not (reset).
i talked with many players, its really 50/50 like in that poll.

i think, at the moment it would be really a bad idea to do a complete reset AND switch to a new rented gameserver.

i´m not knowing how new players react when need to play hide-only when a handfull highlevelers are there.
do they stay or leave?

if all highlevels lose their lvl 250+ from month or years of playing, everyone will be p!ssed in this or that way.
do they stay or leave?

its sad but ut2k4 is dying out sooner or later. so, really many new players we will not have. and trying
to help them in a way so they become addicted players isnt anyones thing...


not only me suggested a compromise, i still think a good solution would be like on the testserver,
everyone starts at lvl 100, its hard, but not impossible. balancing all stuff is still major problem except for some bugs.

i dont say we have to start at lvl 100, it also can be 200, 150, or maybe even lvl 10 but with much
more exps, "kill-exps" or more statpoints, like 50 instead of 10 per level up.

so everyone would level up faster (i´m sure "you" can when starting as lvl 100 instead of lvl 10),
or in the other case, even as a lowlevel beeing able to buy more important stuff, not only to stay allive
in the game, but also beeing able to kill a bit more than just some bugs or flies...

that would make it more interesting for new players and the "vets", which should know what
settings are best, should have this advantage to set at least the most important and over years
grown beloved things from the beginning.

sure they would be like #!µ/$) &!%€@+ %*( ?ß&32&³³²q, me too, but
still better than lvl 10 like it is atm...

ats

When Paintball/Baron get's the new server up in the next week or so. We will start diving into development on 180 again in full force.

Here are our main priorities:
Leveling System
Monster Difficulty
PU/Artifact Drop Rates
Game Breaking Bugs (crashes, lag, spikes, hangups, etc.)

If any thread should have been bumped. It should have been this one too.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4179

We are still unsure on the whether to do a reset or not.

sparliff wrote:ok so i have a question ...right now the monsters adapt to the level of the players right, making it harder for lower level player to make kills ......even if u adjust the monster level so it is that bit easier for lower level players to kill wont it still end up the way it is now if a higher level player joins ....yes it might b easier but still b a strugle for the lower player right?.
i might b getting wires crossed here as im on meds hahaha.

to b honest like someone posted if the levels do get reset yes some r going to b pretty pissed off as they will have no perks in the game and have to build them back up which ...me included have taken a long time to gain but as kyle said we r only getting 1 point a killl ....so another question ....if it does get reset do we get more points per kill?... but when levels get high again will it end up being 1 point a kill again?

for those of us that have been here since the start of the server ...how many r still playing i mean ive been here yrs and yes ive had my levels lost a couple times but the point is im still here cos i love playing this game and love playing on this server ...ive made friends along the way ...helped ppl out ....ppl have helped me out and not just in the game with wops but with information for and about the game and also needed in real life ......kyle u know what im on about hahah.
my point is we all love this game and we are all here to have fun ....it doesnt matter if levels get wiped cos we will just have fun getting them back ..... its a place to have some fun ...get away from the drama that going on in our lives for a few hours ...have a laugh with other players .

im not voting as my levels have been dropped a few times but its no biggie im still here and i still have fun so which ever way it goes im game.

thats my rant over hahaha

Essentially the monsters are the same level as the lowest level player, but the lowest level player will still have difficulty killing the monsters. The reason why the level reset is being floated around is because it is WAY to hard to level on the 179 server. I plan on introducing new RPG abilities in a patch after 180 and I will need players to be able to level quicker and not max out around 300 like on the 179 server. With that being said, I also enjoy and welcome the idea of starting out fresh because we are all noobs and have to work together as a team again. As you said working as a team together has grown real friendships and I miss that and loved that about our community.

Archangel wrote:You know, for all the players that whine about the server being hard to play, how come so many new players have come aboard and are doing quite well at leveling?

You can level up to a certain point, around 300 is when it just becomes not worth it anymore. You have to play months to level up again. I know many of you guys have played for years to gain the level you are at now and you don't want that effort stolen from you, I get that. However, as I said to sparliff I plan on introducing new RPG abilities that will require more points and players to achieve a higher level to afford those points. The option 5 leveling system lets you level frequently and will allow you to fully develop your RPG character.

Amy Infless wrote:hehe.. just when i wrote about bumping old posts

guess they still discuss what to do, so atm i cant tell if or not (reset).
i talked with many players, its really 50/50 like in that poll.

i think, at the moment it would be really a bad idea to do a complete reset AND switch to a new rented gameserver.

i´m not knowing how new players react when need to play hide-only when a handfull highlevelers are there.
do they stay or leave?

if all highlevels lose their lvl 250+ from month or years of playing, everyone will be p!ssed in this or that way.
do they stay or leave?

its sad but ut2k4 is dying out sooner or later. so, really many new players we will not have. and trying
to help them in a way so they become addicted players isnt anyones thing...


not only me suggested a compromise, i still think a good solution would be like on the testserver,
everyone starts at lvl 100, its hard, but not impossible. balancing all stuff is still major problem except for some bugs.

i dont say we have to start at lvl 100, it also can be 200, 150, or maybe even lvl 10 but with much
more exps, "kill-exps" or more statpoints, like 50 instead of 10 per level up.

so everyone would level up faster (i´m sure "you" can when starting as lvl 100 instead of lvl 10),
or in the other case, even as a lowlevel beeing able to buy more important stuff, not only to stay allive
in the game, but also beeing able to kill a bit more than just some bugs or flies...

that would make it more interesting for new players and the "vets", which should know what
settings are best, should have this advantage to set at least the most important and over years
grown beloved things from the beginning.

sure they would be like #!µ/$) &!%€@+ %*( ?ß&32&³³²q, me too, but
still better than lvl 10 like it is atm...

ats

I also do not want to alienate and cause our veterans who worked hard for their levels to leave. I am open to some sort of compromise, though it will have to be fair to everyone and it shouldn't remove the challenge. If we start everyone at level 100 or w/e everyone misses the "noob" moments which can be both frustrating and exhilarating experiences. As I said above, the whole point of the potential level reset is not to rob people of their levels. The purpose is to fix the difficulty of the raking system so everyone can earn more points than ever before and use those points to buy new RPG abilities. With the new Commander feature things won't be as hard as they are on the 179 server as long as we work together.

So I have been here on this server for a very long time. Before all the current weapons and power ups were added. I have been thru a lot of level resets. I've lost track at how many times I've leveled up over 300 and start back at a low level when new things have been added. I play on the server because I like what it has to offer. If you truly like the game and server then it won't matter if you have to start back out as a low level. Your going to play because you like what it has to offer.

Gothicize wrote:So I have been here on this server for a very long time. Before all the current weapons and power ups were added. I have been thru a lot of level resets. I've lost track at how many times I've leveled up over 300 and start back at a low level when new things have been added. I play on the server because I like what it has to offer. If you truly like the game and server then it won't matter if you have to start back out as a low level. Your going to play because you like what it has to offer.

I have always enjoyed the aspect of leveling up in rpg games. Once you get high enough, on any rpg game, it starts to get easier and less of a fun challenge. For that reason I love starting new characters in games like UT, WOW, and Pokemon for example. However, I think that because it is very fast to start a new character and get it high enough to become playable (say level 100) that the people who played for a long time can keep their levels intact, while people who want the challenge of starting a new character can get to a good level in a few days to a week depending on how much they play, so levels dont need to be reset, and everyone is happy! The current leveling system is very fair for getting to a level where you can score a few thousand points and not die every wave after 10 in a good amount of time.