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Post by htcbitme » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:15 pm

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im not saying much but 4 kill i dont belive make a 1000 point score diffrence if so then border should have beat me
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Re: Explain how this can can be Without cheating

Post by htcbitme » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:26 pm

Hicky wrote:I posted 2 screen shots from map DM 1-1 Mend First is at the start of wave 20 Notice My score DTE ,Goob, Gonzo Buddha And DRAEGHONs score most importantly
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NOW the 2nd screen shot is from the end of the wave now look at the scores Me, DTE,Gonzo,& buddha we scored 1000pts some more some a little less Now look at DRAEGHONs score he got over 3600pts just about doubling his score from start to end of the wave not to mention the fact he didnt even come in til wave 15. He is constantly scoring like this.I will question him on how is he doing this and always has a answer like its due to base weapon damage or has max damage on weapon or had the lightening rod. AND I say bullshit to him cause i mostly will use a rejuv weapon and have damage maxed aswell plus have used the lightening rod. I've even used same weapons in Nein Final Had a mp5 as he did then a flack as he did then wave 5 he summoned a laser +3 I summoned Iron Laser +5 at that point we were 90pts apart by end of game he was 4000 ahead. Also when I start to question him in the open his scoring drops to a normals player scoring pace then at last waves he passes all by 2000 or more if you can score like he does please expain to me how> If its only possible with a cheat of some sorrt then it needs to be addressed. Thanks and I do apologise to Draeghon if this is possible without a cheat
after looking at the second screen shot he was on server for 15 min 7000 score in 15 min no way cant happen
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Post by ZombieSlayer » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:04 pm

Yesterday or maybe the day before I'm not sure which, Joey turned on the killing spree bonuses to see what errors they cause.

With the killing spree bonuses on you get score points for every redeemer and nuke bomb you shoot down. They don't show up as "kills".

I'm not sure if you get points for shooting down deemers and bombs when the killing spree is turned off.

So that could explain the difference in score when the difference in kills isn't worth mentioning.

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Post by htcbitme » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:05 am

ZombieSlayer wrote:Yesterday or maybe the day before I'm not sure which, Joey turned on the killing spree bonuses to see what errors they cause.

With the killing spree bonuses on you get score points for every redeemer and nuke bomb you shoot down. They don't show up as "kills".

I'm not sure if you get points for shooting down deemers and bombs when the killing spree is turned off.

So that could explain the difference in score when the difference in kills isn't worth mentioning.
what about the 7000+ score in 15 min with out enhanced leveling
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Post by draegohn » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:32 am

do i have to make a third and more secret character to stop all the pressure on me about all this so i can have fun here than feel like everyone is against me? goddamnit, noone criticizes any other super high scorer but me. so i will go over this crap a bit, AGAIN!!

for the latest post biteme quoted, that was also the source of this topic, read my reply. ssr mini loaded with much damage since wave 16, and what i left out as i reread back was that on waves 18 and 19 i used double damage to enhance the damage and thus experience and score. i stopped all activity to let adrenaline run out so i could do my screw-all strategy for the last wave. i kill a couple monsters, get my adrenaline to 200, and i initiate enhanced triple damage and lightning rod. with ssr mini and that, i went the whole wave killing everything in my view, and with ultra powered lightning strikes.

i refuse to explain once more how damage is tabulated by the server, but in summary, if you strike something with more damage than hp, you get the score for that striking damage and not just hp removed from monster. this is why lightning rod has been the ultimate fragger on this server for so long, and why those with high powered super weps who GO AFTER ENEMIES WITH GREATER HP score higher. i will never go after anything but queens on wave 16, unless a wand appears. this is why i catch up or get such a high lead that wave. other waves, i will concentrate on the larger enemies that have more hp if any more are in sight and give more adrenaline as opposed to the little minions. more damage dished out, more experienced gained, and ultimately, higher score. you can enjoy going after nalis and bugs and skaarj all you want, but titans, queens, valgaries, etc will be on my sights primarily.

that church map, i was proud to come out as i did. i came in like wave 13, and at the end of that wave, someone spelled out WAND. gotta love getting null entropy +8 and golding, eh? anyways, i had +9 damage by wave 16, superspeed on wave 16, and you can guess what i aimed for wave 16 mostly, yes? try it, put a propulsion or knockback pu on with much damages on wand, essr, ssr of power, laser rifle, or ak, and almost every queen and titan dies in one hit. valgaries in one or two hits too. i don't understand it myself how those pus can enhance damage like that, but it does, and those who have tried and used it can attest to its effectiveness.

as zombie states, the spree thing has had an impact on much. i am level 171 now, and when i got a super weapon the past couple days, i level rather fast. when i play, i do incidentally go for deemers headed my way, especially now that i have no ghost/resurrection and can "go kamikaze" as it says if i am not careful. if i see a nuke and i am not sure if its friend or enemy, i pull out a flak or rocket launcher and destroy it ifmy current weapon cannot. spree or not, nuke destorying adds score to the player, friendly or foe nuke. try combat shotgun's alt fire on a nuke and watch your score gain from 300-700 points instantly as you hear a rapid loud series of "DENIEDs"

has freaking anyone analyzed the game as deeply as i do with weapon strength and use of pus, and score related to weapons on certain enemies!? god, i teach you all everything how invasion strategie si use work, how to apply stats when lower level properly, and the details of this particular server in every detail as i know it, and i see so many of you get so much better after working the things i point out into your own gameplay. but still, i keep getting all this, still still still >,,<

sheesh, and i thought after going for no ghost/resurrection as jylon, and dying much and not always being high scorer, it would please some of you now and then. what can i do to stop all this, its driving me looney. maybe i should stop looking at the forum, stop helping the longtime and newbie players, put every single person on ignore in game so i can feel some semblance of peace when i game. i don't cheat, i don't do anything to my game or files, i don't hack the server, i don;t do anything but sit here, play with my guns, and shoot the enemies.

i vote carball whne someone else does because its not only fun, but because i am not good at it and screw up often. at least then i know i deserve to be criticized and yelled at for something i am really doing wrongly at times.

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Post by TheSynGame » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:13 am

We should play ctf. I want to see how good your aim is.

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Post by Coke » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:53 am

ctf is noob go play tdm
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Post by TheMadDJ » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:43 am

Seriously. I've played with Drae a few times (usually I follow him around....what? he shoots em, I can't get capped by em!) and IMHO he doesn't cheat.

As I said, constant whining because someone's scoring more points in a video game is pointless. I've been on the net for around 8-9 years, and every single game all I hear is the same old crap, "OMFG NEWB, I CAN LIEK PWN YOU WITH MAH FINGER!" or "OMFG HaX LEAVE B4 I GET THA ADMIN TA BAN J00!"

I love how NO-ONE has actually tried Drae's pu set-up to prove that it does this instead of jumping on the band-wagon and cry.

Grow the hell up people.

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Post by htcbitme » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:21 am

draegohn wrote:do i have to make a third and more secret character to stop all the pressure on me about all this so i can have fun here than feel like everyone is against me? goddamnit, noone criticizes any other super high scorer but me. so i will go over this crap a bit, AGAIN!!

for the latest post biteme quoted, that was also the source of this topic, read my reply. ssr mini loaded with much damage since wave 16, and what i left out as i reread back was that on waves 18 and 19 i used double damage to enhance the damage and thus experience and score. i stopped all activity to let adrenaline run out so i could do my screw-all strategy for the last wave. i kill a couple monsters, get my adrenaline to 200, and i initiate enhanced triple damage and lightning rod. with ssr mini and that, i went the whole wave killing everything in my view, and with ultra powered lightning strikes.

i refuse to explain once more how damage is tabulated by the server, but in summary, if you strike something with more damage than hp, you get the score for that striking damage and not just hp removed from monster. this is why lightning rod has been the ultimate fragger on this server for so long, and why those with high powered super weps who GO AFTER ENEMIES WITH GREATER HP score higher. i will never go after anything but queens on wave 16, unless a wand appears. this is why i catch up or get such a high lead that wave. other waves, i will concentrate on the larger enemies that have more hp if any more are in sight and give more adrenaline as opposed to the little minions. more damage dished out, more experienced gained, and ultimately, higher score. you can enjoy going after nalis and bugs and skaarj all you want, but titans, queens, valgaries, etc will be on my sights primarily.

that church map, i was proud to come out as i did. i came in like wave 13, and at the end of that wave, someone spelled out WAND. gotta love getting null entropy +8 and golding, eh? anyways, i had +9 damage by wave 16, superspeed on wave 16, and you can guess what i aimed for wave 16 mostly, yes? try it, put a propulsion or knockback pu on with much damages on wand, essr, ssr of power, laser rifle, or ak, and almost every queen and titan dies in one hit. valgaries in one or two hits too. i don't understand it myself how those pus can enhance damage like that, but it does, and those who have tried and used it can attest to its effectiveness.

as zombie states, the spree thing has had an impact on much. i am level 171 now, and when i got a super weapon the past couple days, i level rather fast. when i play, i do incidentally go for deemers headed my way, especially now that i have no ghost/resurrection and can "go kamikaze" as it says if i am not careful. if i see a nuke and i am not sure if its friend or enemy, i pull out a flak or rocket launcher and destroy it ifmy current weapon cannot. spree or not, nuke destorying adds score to the player, friendly or foe nuke. try combat shotgun's alt fire on a nuke and watch your score gain from 300-700 points instantly as you hear a rapid loud series of "DENIEDs"

has freaking anyone analyzed the game as deeply as i do with weapon strength and use of pus, and score related to weapons on certain enemies!? god, i teach you all everything how invasion strategie si use work, how to apply stats when lower level properly, and the details of this particular server in every detail as i know it, and i see so many of you get so much better after working the things i point out into your own gameplay. but still, i keep getting all this, still still still >,,<

sheesh, and i thought after going for no ghost/resurrection as jylon, and dying much and not always being high scorer, it would please some of you now and then. what can i do to stop all this, its driving me looney. maybe i should stop looking at the forum, stop helping the longtime and newbie players, put every single person on ignore in game so i can feel some semblance of peace when i game. i don't cheat, i don't do anything to my game or files, i don't hack the server, i don;t do anything but sit here, play with my guns, and shoot the enemies.

i vote carball whne someone else does because its not only fun, but because i am not good at it and screw up often. at least then i know i deserve to be criticized and yelled at for something i am really doing wrongly at times.
Then i appologize my hats off to you :axe:
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Post by SirBeast » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:16 am

ZombieSlayer wrote:Yesterday or maybe the day before I'm not sure which, Joey turned on the killing spree bonuses to see what errors they cause.
WOOHOOHOOO!!! I was so happy when I logged on last night and saw that this had returned! ROCK ON!!!
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