OK I have kept my thoughts to myself but...

[MAINSTRAIN]

Ok recently I have actually been playing a little more and more each day and I am kinda disappointed. I mean sure the difficulty is like really hard but its still not fun, first you up the ante by making the monsters harder ok I can understand that that was fun. Then I realize its next to impossible to summon a decent weapon I remember people would be able to summon a lazor rifle or combat and I could go on. Not only that but the PU upgrades like flare or razor cripes I used to use flare all the time when I couldn't get a summon now thats all a thing of the past

I remember when I was a n00b I wanted to be godly and have things barely touch me and use the sweet weapons that this server had in its arsenal. Then I got better and I had a blast when it was only 16 waves sure it was easier but you got to use a sweet weapon and help the noobies because they looked for you when the game got slim. Now I'm well over 200 and I can hardly hold my own and to me its just no fun. I know that the regulars I know from a year ago will agree with me.

IDK anymore I like the difficulty but whats the point of having the great weapons when you can barely use them ever? Yeah it requires team work but lets face it people not everyone wants that some people come in here to play for themselves and themselves only, so let those people play by themselves but give them the weapons to do so. But thats just one vet talking what do you guys think?

[Ortega]

I agree with the weapons. The Razor and Blast power ups were my favorite. I used blast one time in a month and then razor maybe 6 times. To many times I would see people with both. Teamwork is the key but people try to make themselves stay alive before they help the team. I must say you can call it the Circle I guess. There was alot of us in it. We gave eachother our guns or powers ups that was needed to someone else even if we needed it. I know it seems mean to put it that way but we helped eachother out more then anyone did. That Circle though is gone compaired to where it was. I like most people but I can name alot of people who I have great friendships with from a gaming point. I dont mind the fact that we lost but its more of a waste when I can't even load a gun to compete. I never carred for the summons being gone. Just the normal weapons pu being gone. I think that made the game harder

[KnaveSkye]

Well, I have been gone far too long to really have an informed opinion, but if the monsters are harder and the weapons are more scarce(even the less powerful ones) then i would agree....what made the game fun when i started was the rediculous weapons that allowed even a low level person to run the map with a little skill and alot of luck. Being a low level and summoning a lady.....that was awesome back in the day...you could score right up there with the high levels if you could stay alive. But hey, if its changing, it can only be closer to what JoeyZ wanted in the first place, and we may not all like it, its his vision.....I just come back for the people now days anyway. I always vote CB....arange gatherings for DB....followed Deadly and clnk_I.N.S. to Counterstrike....played a bit of Rappelz before i left......looking at BF2 since i guess alot of people from there server i like to play with have it.....and hey, its the people..not the game that keep me around, so i guess ill be investing in bf2. (as much as i avoid military/war oriented games) The server isnt what it was...never will be, and atleast a few people must think thats a good thing.

[TurkeyFromHell]

i think that the difficulty is fine and all, but honestly the greatest fun in this gametype is completely annihilating and slaughtering everything you see in a massive frenzy of bloodlust. which is why i liked the old default as um... w/e it was called... the oriental thing.. with the door at one end, u all know what im talkin bout, but anyway that map is nice cuz all the monsters get bunched up in the last few waves in the short hall and u can just rip them to shreds in a pack, im fine with it being harder, but i would say that instead of makin em way harder to kill, make em a little harder or decently harder to kill, but maybe 1.5 or double the number of em. that would please me immensely >:D

as for PU sharing, im not on much anymore but when i am i hav noticed not many ppl hav ears for the needy like in the old days..

[MAINSTRAIN]

I just miss being able to get a lazor rifle, a lady, hell back in the day the widow maker GASP wtf is that

exactly

[draegohn]

most of the maps i played last night were won, albiet with many difficult moments, and i rather like this. i do agree that it can be annoying to be facing ultimate monsters on like wave 6 if most die somehow, but i am seeing many people's gameplays change and it is neat. even while speccing one endymion map last night with 7 players, they seemed like they wouldn't make it with merc, hickey, shaka, venger high levels...but they did win!

truly, i do miss being able to mow down the hoards of monsters instantly wih super weps, and sometimes it can be done still, but not as often any more.

i think it is rumor, but i have been told that because of players like cads, me, crayola, airrman, etc the game was changed to be like this so there would be lss chance for ultra domination by us. but still, we have such opportunities. like my last map this morning i got a super shock of pwoer zero, and i essntially set it up with 2 infsm, pro5, two titan shields, two insta shields, d5 plus one single, and propulsion...and i was one-hit killing most stuff; slow, red wand. i haven't had an ak in a very long time, so i am not sure how it holds up in tough monster moments, but laser rfile can be kind of suck since refelective properties on the "boss" monsters make its use not so nice any longer.

and when i play, i offer all good weapon and status pus i have i won;t use, and deliver them. most of those i play with too are team-minded in sharing, and some spend time medicing weps to retry for better weapons for others.

anyhow, while things aren't aas kickass dominating and fun for the single peroson experience, it really is a thrill to play with a few still alive undrder hell circumstances and in the end, prevail! one_shot had his first map saving and winning last night as last alive on stalwart. very very awesome to experience as i can recall from my times :}

[TheSynGame]

Am I the only one that doesn't find it that hard?

[Venger]

I have heard the admins say that the Summons PU works randomly. Randomly? I totally disagree. If it worked randomly then you would have equal chance to get a really good weapon or total crap. Lets face it 9 out of 10 summons are crap. It would be nice to up the odds a bit on getting something that can really make a difference. The weapons that are here are a major part of the attraction to this server but seldom seen or used. I know the powers that be want to keep the server challenging. I can appreciate that, but come on! Throw us a bone! Make it a little more possible to get a better weapon from the summons. I am not asking for equal chances on what you get, whether it be good or bad. I am just saying up it a bit on chances of getting something good.

[Ortega]

I tried it last night and it was hard. No on the fact on no super weapons. You cant give a gun away to help a team mate late or eve join late. Its almost a waste if time. Gen lost his gun so I tossed him the ssr that I had and was going to redo a rocket but no one had powers up and there weren't falling. Its like get them early or you SOL later in the waves. I'm sorry to say I don't give a damn about super weapons. I never got them that much anyways. But the normal Power ups seem rare now. I don't know how much I will be playing anyways since I have a issue with my keybinds and my normal keys that don't get a long with my UT keys. I might try to take the time to reset everything since I had to reset to play carball because I forgot my keybinds for that. But I had a blast playing carball even though I sucked. We need to do that more often.

[KnaveSkye]

damn right, you better get back in practice cause if my rusty *butt* goes unchallenged I will be disapointed