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Post by draegohn » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:48 am

whoa, sesshy! you are not happy i won't be adding more slots to my weps because i am stubborn in that way, and thus, less of a challenge to you? o..o well, still, i will see how things go after the update, and if i wind up not being first more, then maybe i'll suicide :P but still, that might mean more challenge for me. i like feeling i need someone good to help me try to do better too. t-money is one of those, atlas and von too. i do know that when a high level gets lightning, i have no chance then X}

i also fear that suiciding may have me spawn without any weapon too, as can happen i hear x..x though the rock-wand-deemer deaths are what usually cause that.

ortega, that teamwork thing may just be a great tactic, yes. i won;t use flak except in circumstances i know it will be best, like the corrugation map i got that score i posted last night.

as a random opinion...i still have no idea why sme use the flak on huge wide open maps where most enemies are so far off. the projectiles simply won;t hit much if anything o..o

*edited to add more thoughts i forgot to bring up before*

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Post by Ortega » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:07 am

I know. I use my mp5 on bigger maps but lately my mp5 has been negative. I will use a flak on all small maps. I only use a Mp5, Flak, Lady, Wand, Partical, Shotty, Laser Rifle.
But latley I haven't tried but maybe 1 out of 5-6 maps. But thats because I have been getting some many C>R> with res. so I went back to ghost.


Hey damit I am always in the top 3 unless I try a Avril and mine layer like I did the other night. That avril sucked it was a 10 loaded also. In either case it only takes one summoned gun and a person is off with there score. It also depends mainly on who gets unlucky on wave 18 and 20. Dont tell me Sess that you don't die either.
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Post by Sesshyru » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:17 am

I havent seen you top 3 for a while, you always be talkin lol. Es coo tho cause your coo. But yea I use MP5, Shoty, Lil lady, and wand. My fav gun is the particle and I use it if im messing around. I think the flack and flare are useless compared to the shotgun and MP5, cause what flack can't do is go threw enimes lie the MP5 can. Also the MP5 offers more versitilty than flack. And any gun compared to the shotgun comes up a bit short besides the Shock rifle wepons (Lady wand). Shotgun even on the single fire decked out wit rages and damage is spread damage that ends life kinda quickly. And the second fire obliterates shields, somethin even lady has a problem with at times. And if you have vorpel on it or the MP5, shits getin done. Vorpel on a flack or flare is kinda a waste... Mini-rockets are cool, but im having trouble finding a good build for them. The build comes into questian when wheighted agnest a MP5 with dam 5, 5 singles, 2 rages, percing, penetration, and vorpel (3 propultion are optional cause the damage increase is significant but not neccary cause other wepons wrok even better with Super Force). Little can stand past that because the rate of fire is so rapid, the vorple goes off, especialy on meaty or shielded enimes. The damage is so good that it makes danm near anything mence meat. Penetration makes it go threw team members and other enimes so your damage is thus multiplied by a base of targets hit, not so much damage. Rages don't hurt you at all on MP5 so you can go nuts, and the fire is stright even for things on the other side of the map. The thing wit mini rockets is you feel the rage, no penetration, slower rate of fire, and has problems with shield. Also the vorple doesn't go off so much. The only benefit I can see is "raining" and splash damage and increased damaage. Shotgun offers improvements on EVERYTHING that the MP5 offers accept penetration, but you don't need it cause witht he single fire, you can spam all day long and wup the Jesus outa anything, and the alt fire is just punishment, also you don't feel the effects of Rage slapin you for the massive damage. With super speed and a heal, shotgun by far outranks the MP5, even at long rage the fire is stright enough to get a vorple off and its spreads so you have more of a damage box than a MP5. I believe the "wisdom" would do well in the helpin the team area. But this is just me talkin xP
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Post by Ortega » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:25 am

Yeah all last week because I have been talking and messing around. LOL. Also when I have been on the top I get a Critical Error and come back with 0. That doesn't help. That is the main reason why I just haven't tried. I think in 5 maps on saturday I got like 5000 XP points but in the next two maps I got like 9000 XP.
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Post by Sesshyru » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:26 am

Musta been some weak ass people playing or you have good lightning rods or mad luck on the wepon summons xD

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Post by draegohn » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:36 am

i am top or top 3 every game unless i join in wave 16 or past :P

yes, mp5 is grrrreat! the reason it does well, is that it can hit more than one enemy. it doesn't necessarily go through them...shoot at a wall from varying distances with mp5 and the mini and watch the ricochet pattern. the mini's spread out very very far from different distances, the mp5 spread out a bit, but not so much. i was using the mp5 to snipe from Plunge map at the highest tower and did the best since its bullets aren't spread so much out from far shooting :} mp5 is horrible against smiths and nalis because their hit box is so small as well as how fast they tend to move too.

you are right about the weapons overall, but i use mini rl often when i get it, because its small splash damage can harm many enemies in gatherings, and does have a good power. and nothing can beat how the combat shotgun's alt fire lingers and hurts. very effective on effigies, smiths, and nalis n..n

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Post by Sesshyru » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:39 am

Yea, smiths are a pain, but you just need to keep them at arms-lenght away insaid of all up in yo grill cause you can't see shit.
I have suicided as much as Von, and never lost my wepon that I was messing with. Nither have I ever hurd von do it. Von doesn't ever do the adren combo for wrenches and he never complains, nor does anybody say anything to him for suiciding cause uasuly their 1000 points benith him. So yea stop bein a punkass lil school girl Dr. Drae xD

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Post by draegohn » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:52 am

X} i'll be any way i want!

as for the suicide for wrenches, i will see how things go at first. if it is that i am not doing as well, i will submit to that action. after all, i do know i sometimes help win the maps, so maybe not doing it is going against the team ideal for victory. but we'll see!

the doctor must now ask you to remove your clothes, its time for that special, long-lasting prostate exam :P

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Post by Ortega » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:53 am

The majority of the time we are all. Your not always sess and dra. I'm not either it just depends on the matter of the luck you have on the higher waves.

Also I actaully didn't have Lighting rod or lady. I haven't used a lady for about two weeks actaully! I got one from knave but I lost it from a C.r. in less then a wave. Also you were on when I had the Flaks and got those scores. The server was full.
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Post by draegohn » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:19 pm

i didn't understand that first line. but if you mean that map winning comment i made, i meant that its always a group effort and i do my part like all else. :} such as.. someone kills a warlord with deemer pointed at you or titan about to rock you, and you're saved without knowing, and the fight goes on! this is a reason why its all so fun. anything can happen and what does is usually because of the influence of everybody else. i make this point in my high score postings because each one of them was due to the helping kindness of someone else, or they would not have been attainable ^,,^

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