Explain how this can can be Without cheating

[Sesshyru]

Dreagon left $/? I guess I would too if nobody understood me..

[draegohn]

after a few days leaving, and being frustrated at so many of you i considered friends always bitching at me for not doing anything wrong, but being accused of it, i decided to return and give you guys a handicap to my score i suppose.

i am a new character under a new name, and right now i am level 142. i will not make use of ghost/resurrection at all, one life per wave. and i still kick high level ass on many maps, and i have since level 90. i remember at level 93 i beat hickey and full server of half high-levels with mp5 rejuvenation up through wave 17. then wave 18, hickey, you WAND spelled for us. and then you had no chance since i had +10 damage going on it, ghost artifact, and enhanced trip damage to use final wave. i am very proud to have dominated whiney you and the others in the face of such adversity with the right weapon, artifacts, and setup. now before i explain my observations how things were startig anew, let me explain that map and bitch topic you have...

i came in at wave 15 with nothing but mp5 of power something. i didn;t even get an inf that wave, but i found nearly all damages i needed and 2 rages, so i stuck them on. and wave 16 i happened to come by mister ssr mini pu and i also got both infs that wave while i was trying to get my queens. i setup mini ssr with about +8 damage and 2 rages. starting wave 17, i knew someone had super lucky going on, because i got a lightning rod, enhanced trip damage, double damage, and globe that wave and the next. i got full damages and one more rage wave 18, and i had probably +6 energy too by end of wave 19. so..what do i do wave 20 you think? i do what the hell i have wanted to do for weeks! i initated enhanced triple and lightning rod at the same time, and with ssr mini, i censored everything up. if you haven't read all my posts about how damage, score, lightning, and other artifacts work based on gun pus, then you will never understand the damage/score relationship, but continue to complain and cry. which doesn't stop at invasion, you do it during carball too when things don;t go your way.

hickey, for being one of the major contributors resulting in me wanting to leave, and making me upset with your words, i will now say what i never said to anyone. you suck. i am not kidding, because i have spectated you now in first person view, and seeing how you choose your guns makes me think you need to analyze your play method and choose your non-superweapons better. you also need to parctice using the "dot" reticule and getting a greater feel where beamy weapons hit on screen. i have spectated you and many others in first person view in times i die or can't get into the full server, and seeing you..well..you miss so damn much, more than what seems normal. maybe you use bad key configuration for movements, maybe a ping/lag thing, or you are trying to go for small hitbox monsters often, but sheesh...now i see why you don't usually score high unless you use a super weapon. btw, flare sucks, i used to use it too, and seriously, the blinding blast makes one hit mostly through splash damage than actual hitting anyways, so damages and rages are useless unless you make more hits. if you want to use a rocket launcher weapon, use fireball..that thing is strong as hell and won't blind your aim as badly. so, stop criticizing, accusing, and blaming others when you need to simply look to yourself as to why you don't do as well. but, i am sure you worried that lil drae was going to pass your highest level and take away you from #1, so you wanted to stir up trouble. but highest level means nothing if you don't know your game, you know. and stop bitching! just play damnit and accept the goodness and failings of others in invasion and cb. you were much nicer before, and now you are like a cranky old man.

now, let me guys give you a little rundown of my experience in summary as starting from level 10. holy crap it was hard at first! i remember starting this server in january before it was godlike difficulty, but this..this was so much harder to start off on. if it wasn't for the 1000 points bonus experience for winning, and superweapons, i'd still be under 100 now probably. anyways, with map winnings, and summoning super weapons, i made level 100 in 17 maps. i built myself up with stat points so i could get the gold wrench primarily. i went for denial 2, vamp 3, resupply 2 as soon as i could as well. these are my only skills still. after ws, dr, and db were 150, i spent everything on db. yes, i died often, but causing more damage also let me level up faster since damage is what gets one the experience points. screw obsessing on dr at first, really, because gaining levels is primary over lasting "slightly" longer, and even still, if you'd max dr, your hits are going to be too weak to kill what's shooting at you, and you'll die anyways for some time. i am now level 142 after about 5 days (and i am not even playing all day) with maxed db and advanced db, i am almost doing as well as i usually have. yes, i do die easily when enemies have turbo and laser rifle, aside from wands and osamas, but my db is allowing me, at 300hp, to stay alive with vamp 3. if i am hurting, i aim for a vampable enemie and refuel. ths is why i lose my score leads usually starting wave 17 now, since the army guys hurt, badly, and almost no enemies are vampable in that wave, and 19.

so, yeah...i won;t be all score impressive now because i will be dying often since i will not be using ghost or resurrection. this is not only to help stop some bitching i guess, but also adds a new challenge and intensity to me. i am not here, like so many of you (hickey), to yell at others and try to beat the pants off. i am here for freaking fun and adrenaline rush, like its always been. and i am skilled without any damn cheats and crap some of your think you need to keep making excuses for. many of us are. and many of you aren't. deal with it and shut the hell up! >,,<

god, so many of you are like dealing with PMS every damn day it seems

oh yeah, and even the nicer people seem to change during carball, haha. even sweet, adoreable, level-headed zombie who i cannot help but like lots can get pretty pissed at simple mistakes or same-team collisions or any other mistake that we ALL do in that game at times

many of you need to stop taking everything so seriously!!!!!!!

[ZombieSlayer]

Yea I tend to get pissed at cb. But my reasons seem sound...at least to me :finga:

First if you don't want to play cb then leave. Sooner or later inv will win and you can come back and play. That's my biggest gripe. Too many of you whinny little kids trying to screw your team over because you don't want to play cb. This is a VARIETY server and not strictly invasion.

Secondly half the time when I bitch at someone, I'm more pissed at myself for doing something stupid or having "tunnel" vision in game.

I am bitching less and less in cb though, but I'm also kicking those that are idle or sabotaging their teams :butthead:

As for invasion, I've changed my standard pu setup from sf and extra energies to propulsion and rage. Especially on the laser or mp5. Although I still don't seem to be able to kill those darn meat camels or smiths with the mp5 all that fast

[draegohn]

i get bitchy at carball, but only under circumstances. like last night, for instance. sloppy switching teams how many times (ithink 4 times in an 1.5 hours) when he saw he was on a possible "loser" team? and then he tried scoring on the same goal when he was put on such a team again twice! i mean..wtf!!!?

i actually don't mind being on a "lesser" cb team. it makes the challenge all the greater. i was having a cb orgasm last night when you and knave, the server's cb greats, were on the same team and i was on the other.

meat camels are hard to kill with mp5, but with high damage, they aren't too too bad. try using awareness 2 to see how you do against them. when i shoot at then, i actually try to shoot at the blue rider guy, and it seems to take more off than actually shooting at the came he is riding.

now, smiths/nalis with mp5..fast and small hitboxes, hard to get easily. this is what i do against them, like i do even against other baddies that move relatively fast. strafe oppositely of their locomotion to keep the reticule centered on them even as they move, and predict where they may be heading as well if they move rather fast. if they move in another direction, strafe in the other way. if they head right at you, move backwards and stay focused. and so on. many tougher enemies trying to kill with mp5 may require you to try and stand there and firing over and over, but if their weapon is strong, and/or many enemies are around, do a circular strafe maneuver, running in cirles around them and firing, changing direction randomly, add as jump now and then as well still in circular pattern so they miss more than the computer allowing them to predict your position so well. this is my technique i use not just with mp5, but all weapons. time of prediction is longer and more succeptible to missing when using slower rate firing weapons like howitzer, blast cannon, etc

if any of you have watched my play style, i am strafing most of the time as i change direction or circling enemies, and not turning myself truely. if you remember the topic awhile back about how one configures their keys to play this game, then you'll see how i am always using my left hand strafing and my mouse motions for the slight turning and shooting and such. i was shocked and impressed parabolicbox the other day thought my alternate character was me because she said "i think he is drae, his fighting style is just like drae's" hehe, good job being able to see that, para :}

[TheMadDJ]

This is why I never care about my score or anyone else's. You're always bound to run into a "Who's **** is bigger" contest....

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[ZombieSlayer]

meat camels are hard to kill with mp5, but with high damage, they aren't too too bad. try using awareness 2 to see how you do against them. when i shoot at then, i actually try to shoot at the blue rider guy, and it seems to take more off than actually shooting at the came he is riding.

Shooting the rider eh? I'll have to give that a go

now, smiths/nalis with mp5..fast and small hitboxes, hard to get easily. this is what i do against them, like i do even against other baddies that move relatively fast. strafe oppositely of their locomotion to keep the reticule centered on them even as they move, and predict where they may be heading as well if they move rather fast. if they move in another direction, strafe in the other way. if they head right at you, move backwards and stay focused. and so on. many tougher enemies trying to kill with mp5 may require you to try and stand there and firing over and over, but if their weapon is strong, and/or many enemies are around, do a circular strafe maneuver, running in cirles around them and firing, changing direction randomly, add as jump now and then as well still in circular pattern so they miss more than the computer allowing them to predict your position so well. this is my technique i use not just with mp5, but all weapons. time of prediction is longer and more succeptible to missing when using slower rate firing weapons like howitzer, blast cannon, etc

Same strategy I use most of the time. Suppose I just need more practice since I still only use the mp5 if I get a non wop 8 or higher :butthead:

[+SaiN+]

I'm just overall, out of practice. I've been on FPS'es since the good ol' creepy Quake I days and dial-up, Quake II where shit really picked up for me.. Then college, MMORPGs and avoiding the more competitive FPS'es for a while and generally other forms of gaming knocked me out of practice. c.c

So I think I suck. I also agree with TheMadDJ. Everything turns into a .. contest if we all make a huge deal out of score, but I guess with people, it can't be helped.

[SirBeast]

First if you don't want to play cb then leave. Sooner or later inv will win and you can come back and play. That's my biggest gripe. Too many of you whinny little kids trying to screw your team over because you don't want to play cb. This is a VARIETY server and not strictly invasion.

HELLZ YEAH! AND KICK THOSE IDLERS! It REALLY pisses me off to see people idling in carball just because they don't want to lose their invasion spot. GET THE HELL OUT!!!

Secondly half the time when I bitch at someone, I'm more pissed at myself for doing something stupid or having "tunnel" vision in game. I am bitching less and less in cb though...

hehehe... I know someone who does the same thing.... ME! LOL

but I'm also kicking those that are idle or sabotaging their teams :butthead:

It's about time! I just wish you were on more often, because (A) Admins simply aren't around enough, and (B) MOST admins aren't as pro-active as you when it comes to kicking idlers.

[Coke]

you suck hicky leave him alone jus cos your a noob doesnt mean you can call him a cheater

[|bah|Ariel]

Yea I tend to get pissed at cb. But my reasons seem sound...at least to me :finga:

First if you don't want to play cb then leave. Sooner or later inv will win and you can come back and play. That's my biggest gripe. Too many of you whinny little kids trying to screw your team over because you don't want to play cb. This is a VARIETY server and not strictly invasion.

Yeah. dont like CB so i always leave.

You could add those whinny kids that keeps on saying "this map sucks" every 10 seconds.
I ask once why they where there a played the map if they dont like it..

The result was 4 kick votes. I guess i stepped on the wrong toe there :finga: