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I want everyone to please keep in mind that Wand, Lil Lady, AK47 etc. are all Instagib spam weapons made for other game types. Please DO NOT mis-understand our game type. Our game type of invasion is about Weapons Of Power and 60 different powerups, not instagib. The concept is clear; build the power of your own weapons to kill monsters.

The special weapons are bonuses. For all those people who think that this is a INSTAGIB MONSTER server is wrong. So, please keep that in mind. I have done a few tweaks (and need a few more) to the instagib weapons to make them not so instagib (half the power), so you can have them more often, the rest is up to you to build the weapons power with powerups.

I will might reduce the wand from 1000 damage to 500 damage since you have it frequent and as a summon. This should NOT be a problem because you have RPG abilities and powerups to increase its damage variables.

Reducing instagib weapons to half power will also stop the monsters from 1 shot kills. The monsters have the same base power of a weapon as you do + a random factor of 1 thru 5. This would take some pressure off new comers.

Good Luck Warriors.

joeyz wrote:For all those people who think that this is a INSTAGIB MONSTER server is wrong.

good point.. well i love to play "insta-style", if i have luck get one, ok, i try to kill all what is movin, and im happy when i can "steal" sometimes a bit more kills from the allways 1-3.placed players, if not, i play with what i can handle best to try to survive the last waves.
if i get a wep from chest, i mostly take shotty, howie or mini-rl, esp. because of better vamp/selfhealing and the cool sounds (dont like some of the "insta-sounds", but thats not the point here).

the problem is the summon-hunting. some have really too much luck in allways getting more than a hand full summons in one map, while others have 1 in 10 maps. good luck, bad luck, whatever. i mean with that much summons they have enough chances, to get one or more of these weapons in every map. i do not know, how this can be more balanced, so a lowlevler has more chances to have the luck of a "insta-weapon" and at least in one game per day the feeling to "pwn" like many highlevler do in "evry game" (ok, maybe 9 from 10 or 8 from 10...but mostly) because of all these insta-weps.
if you look at all the screenshots, there are allways the same, ok, with some exceptions and "overpwered" mp5´s many had wands, lazers, lillys. really rarely someone with a "normal wep" are in first 3-4 places.
so it is no wonder this becomes an insta-server-touch....

the other side is if "instas" are lowered in damage, then maybe the feeling
of the "one-shot"-weapons get lost and the next thing we can read about
is whinings like "damn i hit the luzi with my wand 30 times and it doesnt want to die and then it killed me with 2-3 shots..."

lets see what happens...
...hmmm. and like some say: just my 2 euro-cents....

amy

Amy Infless wrote: really rarely someone with a "normal wep" are in first 3-4 places.
so it is no wonder this becomes an insta-server-touch....

i'm very often in a high place when i get a decent weapon set up (i.e. flak wop of pretty much anything w/ rzr or blast, or a flare or soemthing like that) before wave 8 or 9 (and i actually try to kill stuff); in any case i agree w/ joey for the most part

I couldn't completely agree more joey. Everyone thinks this is an instagib invasion server but its not. Its a Enhanced WoP RPG invasion server.

amy, it can be hard as heck to get a summon. since the major update, i have actually seen a few more than i used to. but still, most maps i usully get one or two, sometimes none.

joey is right that this is a misconception. none of these weapons kill everything in one shot, ever. the only want to get them to kill everything in one shot is to do the damage 10 and rage stuff, otherwise, you can see with some enemies they always take a few shots to kill

I don't mind the players getting "instagib" weapons that are less powerful... that makes perfect sense. I'm just glad that monsters now won't be able to kill you in one shot anymore (at least, I hope).

mmm it felt good holding an ak 47 again.

I agree 100%.
I use this stuff because...well...besides teh uber damage, they just look awesome. for me the mp5 would work just as well, or even better sometimes, than a lil lady, but having rockets that fly across the screen as if it were instant fire(it may well be, haven't look at the code) is just plain fun.
so half or even quarter the damage it doesn't matter to me. it'll probably make the gameplay alot more fun too. :partyman:
edit: though seeing how one wand will make even the best players run for cover is also pretty funny

I thought this was a bitchin and a whinin server rofl

Amy Infless wrote:if you look at all the screenshots, there are allways the same, ok, with some exceptions and "overpwered" mp5´s many had wands, lazers, lillys. really rarely someone with a "normal wep" are in first 3-4 places.
so it is no wonder this becomes an insta-server-touch....

I disagree. there is more to getting a high score than just having a good weapon. 9 out of 10 players at the server I or other great players such as draeghon have no problem outscoring when they have a super weapon, even the ssr mini, and he has a goos mp5 or i have a good flak with razor or blast. I mean super weapons are only as good as the person using them. If myself drae mainstain or atlas for example get a wand ak e-ssr lady etc than we are going to kill everything in sight, but most players are either too low a level for it to matter or dont have very good aim. So yes I do think it was good to make the super weapons a bit weaker, but I still think that the the ssr mini lady and wand should stand out from the rest of the summons. Having the laser rifle, enchanced ssr and wand all the same power would be kind of pointless.

I don't think that the super weapons are any more common, except for spelling wand or when a bunch of people get super lucky powerups and summon keys/chests, but summon powerups are not really any easier to get so to a certain extent the summoned guns need to be powerful. I think the way it is right now is nearly perfect, the only complaint I have is with the lil lady, it has become much weaker, maybe even more than 50% weaker! It was always my favorite gun and was always easily comparable in strength with the wand, but now it kind of sucks, I would go as far to say that it is no longer in the top 5 most powerful guns (laser rifle e-ssr wand ssrmini and AK47 in my view) so if you want my opinion I think that the lady should be made a little faster.