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suggestion: silver wrench (for the game!)

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:31 pm
by Amy Infless
*edited* i just remembered i had a "wish" long time ago so you can put this to my new-patch-wishlist too. pity it looks like noone knows what happend after discussing the idea, is it dead end? forgotten? did they work on it, is it (im-)possible..etc...) *end edited*

well... today on the server i had an idea about a silver wrench (and it remembers me to that pic u can see in the other topic -> http://www.gamingmadness.org/forum/view ... 811#p12811 )

this idea comes to me cause i was sometimes "pissed" about pickin up a +10-wop, but noone has a golden-wopped one with extended slots.
so the idea is, a silver wrench which gives me 1 or 2 slots per use. and same like purple or gold, need to die to get it back.

what do you think?


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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:45 pm
by TurkeyFromHell
ooh... i like that... and i'll one up the idea, how bout the wrench is buyable but u can only use it once a map ;). but whatever u use it on hasto ALREADY be a wop, and can't have been turned from a gold, so a wop w/ no extras, and the silver will give it all the extras that itd have if it had been turned ;)

so say i pick up a flak of power +7, with no extra slots, i can use silver on it (and i wont get the silver back til next map) and it'll make the flak as though it had been turned from a rage or pullforward or something like that, i.e. add on all the extra slots u get from turning a +7.


i like it..

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:36 pm
by Amy Infless
hmmm... sure, why not?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:06 pm
by souless
just wondering and trying to clearify i dont really get it so does that mean the silver wrench or whatever would just be like having 2 purple wrenches in one or like a mix of the gold and purple?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:45 am
by Amy Infless
souless yes and no.

my idea was: silver = 1 or 2 slots possible evry wave, IF you die before end of wave AFTER using the silver wrench to get it back at start at next wave to have again the silver wrench to get 1 o 2 slots more.
example, you pick up a standard-flak of power +10. it has no extended slots. and noone has a better one or dont want tell you he has one. so,
now you can pull out that silver wrench and silver 1-2 slots per wave, means, if you are good in suicide-timing, you have a flak+10 with 20-40 extended slots in wave 20!

turkeys idea is based on the mathemathics, which i dont know right now , which gives you the extended slots when you wop a wep with the gold wrench.
just an example, its not correct! :
you pick up a bio of pull forward+3, if you gold it you get 4 extended slots more than when you pick the regular bio+3-wop.
you pick up a sturdy linkgun +6, if you gold it you get 9 slots more than the regular link+6-wop
and so on.
means, based on this maths, the silver wrench only gives you ONE TIME PER MAP -only-the number of the extended slots of the normal wop you hold!
means, (example!) you pick up a mini-gun-wop+8. it has no extended slots. based on that special maths if you gold a normal mini+8 non-wop
you got 15 extended slots. now you use silver wrench on your
standard-mini-wop+8-non-extended and you become the mini+8ext with 15 ext. slots...

the only question here is now, if i summon a good wop, but its low in numbers, maybe a "+1" it makes no really sense to "silver" it to get 2 slots more, well only if you can life with that. so, should it be allowed to purple it first?
example: you summon a mini-rl-wop+1. if you silver it now, your silver is lost till next map. if you want more slots, you need to purple it first for 9 waves, then when u have the mini-rl-of power+10 you use silver and "earn" then the 20 extended slots, like when you used gold on a rage+10,pullforward+10, vorpal+10, rejuv.+10
...


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:22 am
by TheMadDJ
Erm, doesn't the blue wrench give extra slots? Not sure on that before you smash me over the head with that wrench Amy d=)

Good idea if it isn't in already. Only concern I have is you can get a godly wop off that by wave 20 d=P

Might think about capping it at about 12-13 slots. Otherwise the new generation would simply lob the world and his wife on their gun without any planning, so it may take the skill side out of it

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:42 am
by SirBeast
TheMadDJ wrote:Erm, doesn't the blue wrench give extra slots? Not sure on that before you smash me over the head with that wrench Amy d=)

Good idea if it isn't in already. Only concern I have is you can get a godly wop off that by wave 20 d=P

Might think about capping it at about 12-13 slots. Otherwise the new generation would simply lob the world and his wife on their gun without any planning, so it may take the skill side out of it
Nope - all the blue wrench does is take 1 "minus" away from a negative weapon.

I like the idea of the silver wrench - of course limiting the total # of slots to the same you would have if you used a gold on weapon of rejuv/rage/venom/etc +10

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:19 pm
by TMoney96
Heh, blue wrench doesnt work on negative WOPs, that silver idea is nice though. Turkey's sounded the best.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:12 am
by M3RC
so what ur saying is for every wave that past while still alive you would gain 1-2 extra slots on the wop that is being used, sounds like a great idea.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:32 am
by Amy Infless
TheMadDJ wrote:Erm, doesn't the blue wrench give extra slots? Not sure on that before you smash me over the head with that wrench Amy
no i only will push u over the edge in training day :-)

with blue you only can "fix" negative wops, like a "damaged biorifle of power -1"
so you can toss it when its a "0" now and pick up someones slotmachine made from a rejuve...
if you have a "-3" it makes no sense dieing 2 times to get blue wrench back to make a "-2" into a "-1" now...

and t-mon, you are right, blue isnt workin sometimes for me, do know why, i posted that in bugreport, they know it but i dunno if they are workin on it or if its going to be fixed in one of the next patches..


can we make a compromise?
combinig both ideas like following:
you have a good 6-7-8-9-10-standard-wop-non-extended.
you use silver wrench and get all the extended slots you normally become when you wop a good 6-7-8-9-10-wep with gold.
so far, so good.
but when you are wopping a good 6-7-8-9-10-wep, you HAVE some or all
(if it was a +10) extended slots. so, my silver wrench is useless many times. so, lets say as a mini-bonus for buying it too, you earn ONLY 1 or 2 more slot(s) and it doesnt matter if was a +3, +6, +9 or +10.i think this is a fair deal too :-) i hope there is not all toooo much math behind that idea
to make servers cpu burnout ;-)

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