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Last night Axe and Hicky. Not being mean and I'm cool with both. I spectated Dreaghon and yes he does miss and he misses often just not as much as most people. But the next map we all talled ours scores of kills and were trying to figure our ratings on the point system. Now I was the lowest level player (WOW don't say that to much) out of the four of us. I was keeping up with dreaghon's score the first game and then I was able to pull ahead by over 200 points even though I killed Less Monters. The next game we tried to use the same gun and same powers but it worked until I started to get Wanded and the damn nuke bomb kept blowing up next to me. Everyone wants to figure a scoring system out or say dreaghon cheats. Here is the thing that I don't understand, Why are we doing it to Dreaghon when Crayola actaully would outscore everyone everytime until he stuck his figure in his butt, LOL. I have mtched Draeghon in kills and like we both said. We need to actaully do it with something better then a MP5 of 1. Now I'm not trying to see who's better on the server. But I would like to see a game with Hicky, Myself, Merc, Dreaghon, Blue, (T-money if hes on) all get the same weapon and try to use the same power ups and go by the kill totals. Another thing is a scoring guide for some of the monsters.

PS. During the first trail the map messed up I was 1 kill behind Dreaghon for the first 10 waves. But for the first 8 he was beating me pretty bad. Then with the deaths staying the same I jumped ahead by over 200 points. Just for people who werent there. No. I didn't have the award pu. do keep in mind that the LR doesn't count as kills but gives your points. So if you used it say so.

I'm only doing this because I'm sort of sick and tired of all name shit on the high scores. Yeah dreaghon does this high score with his Mp5 and a Flak. I know Cad has been thrown into this but its no on the score is on the fact that you seem to get a Summoned Super weapon every map.

maybe lets try something new as far as screen shots or just telling people on just truth. But post how many kills you got and the score you got. That way we can get a around of bout average that people are going to post. If you see someone with 400 kills and its like 10000 then we know something is up. Dreaghon and I have tried many different test to try and figure crap out. People can't bitch about peoples score if they don't try test. yest I gave 5 summons and the SSR PU away to stay truthful to the test even though I had a 6 on the mini with Gold and Purple. if people aren't willing to try and maybe figure why this and that is. THEY SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE AND just PLAY. I agree with Hicky and it would be cool to figure this out and Dreaghon I know is down because he tries to help people with Powers Ups and use guns all the time. he is the only person on the Server that actaully writes a book with the Power ups and anything else he used to tell people how he got it.

that was rather fun to try last night! i did find it interesting that one spanse of time where your kills and mine were nearly the same in the early couple waves, but you were 200 score higher. i recall at that time, you had a fair number of damages on and i had 1. i would say that maybe you got more higher score enemies than i did, so thats a possibility. every enemy type has its own score points for being killed.

we should try this test with same wep by having an admin give us wands, just regular ones, the game's best weapon. gold it, purple once, and try to have on it 2 infs, protection 5, 1 propulsion, superspeed, +10 damage. i think this is all it could take, but it is the best -basic- wop setup. energy 5 would be unnecessary i guess since using the adrenal surge skill would be enough to have health/shields adrenaline combo keep going.

so there you hear it guys, ortega and i used equally outfitted mp5s on goliath, and we kicked butt! map won too with me getting the higher kills and score, which i wasn't expecting with kungfugrips's mini ssr going too. all this was admittably hard as heck, especially on army guy waves since mp5 isn't great on them. on waves 17-20, i kept having to seek monsters i could vamp from to refill my fast draining hp x,,x

and the next map..skyscrapin2 map...map of seflishness! man, noone was tossing excess pus at all except me and ortega it seemed :{

t-mon wanted a challenge like this long time ago, if i remember right.



good idea ortega, but this will not work.
to see for real if something is wrong you need to do something like a 1:1
but in a special way:
"you" are the "1", and the monsters are the other "1" (so its like 1:1000)
means, like on some really good 1:1-dm-servers, there are 16 specs and 2 players, in our case its the "one-man-show" vs monsters.
now lets say you want do 3 or 4 tests, with mp5+10 or rejuv, lilly+10 or rejuv, wand+10 or rejuv, ak+10 or rejuv, or essr+10 or rejuv.
so, to have for all the same weapon/pu-conditions, you start, and in front of you is spawning ONLY the test-wep/wop, and the pu/artifactchest+keys.
now pick them up and built your weapon. you have 1 minute time before the 1. wave start.
now you may think this is a stupid idea. maybe. but its like in most sports, example formula1, if you have the best car, but you are a bad driver, you will not win (only "by accident"). if you are the best driver, but have a crap-car, you will not win (only "by accident", too). . if all have the same best car, doesnt mean all win. and all beeing best driver doesnt exist.
and this is now the 2. thing, why this test really wont work.
what happens if someone get rocked by "accident"? then its over for the first tester in wave4, the other gets wanded in wave 8 and the next is ghosting into a wall and instantdie there in wave12....you have 3 different scores which say nothing. this test should be made with possibilty to survive wave 20. huh? another crap idea? well, theoretically every single-test-player should have the same score now, or not?
problem is you cant test something like that as long there is no script, when and where which monster spawns, to see if its a strategie-problem and/or a skill-problem of some players.

if you want test the 5-10 "best" or highest-leveld players in one game, will not work too, it could work a bit if all have the same "test-wep/wop" and the needed pus from beginning. but i dunno if this is possible to create.

but maybe another idea could help. back to the 1:1 server i talked about. joey is able to set a second server. why not, lets say for a month as a testserver, where max. 2 players can test, and 10-14 can spec (if they want)... i know, many say now another stupid idea... cant you read all?
ok, the 2 players play now in a 1:1:1-match means: player1 vs player2 vs monsters. if player1 win, player2 is out, and a spec can join, so he is player3 now. player2 can only rejoin after a cycle of lets say 6 players.
so, in moment its now player1 vs player3 vs monsters. if player1 win again, player3 is out and the next spec can join, and so on. if player3 wins player1 is out and next spec can join, so its player3 vs player4 vs monsters (with vs i dont mean kill other player, its to look at the monsterkill-scores at the end, and with "winner" i mean the one who survives as last player or have the highest score if both survive/die).
and like on "my" mostfav. 1:1-dm-server, the winner is asking via menu, whos next for the challenge, and the first who press the "yes"-key can join.
i think this way could be very interresting too. because now its real pressure on both sides, the "highest-leveld-players" vs "best-players", and they dont need to play with lowlevelers and hear their whinings about pus, they dont need to share pus, only if they take pity on the oponent
player ;-) both can fully concentrate on their gameplay. and believe me, it will not be easy...

ats

draegohn wrote:skyscrapin2 map...map of seflishness! man, noone was tossing excess pus at all except me and ortega it seemed :{

not the only map... btw, i call it a-----eness, esp when some good wellknown high-level-players are peeing requested pus into instant-death-pit in gael...

ats

ps: oh btw, maybe only u 2 had all the pus? ;-)

Amy we wernt trying to fine who is better. We were trying to figure the ponts system compared to kills. We would just check our f3 key and type or tell what the kills where. Its actaully weird because one wave drea would be 120 on me and the next wave I would only be like 10 points behind but we killed the same amount. The basis is that people are saying he is hacking but like last night I did try the first game and the second just didn't pan out as well. I was beating him when I had more damage but when I unloaded I lost some power ups from tossing . Dreaghon and I will take the time to do it again with/without a wand. I know axe tried to give us wands but forgot where the file was. The reason why I was saying to put your Kill score on the server with the gun and the points is because we can average or I can build a sheet that would average. Therefore if someone was able to pull a 10,000 score system with say 400 kills it wouldn't work and that person can be looked into. Last night I finished third and I sucked ass and dreaghon did win. The thing is Amy I died 5 times in the game. I lost by 2000. Now hicky died 5 times also. 45-60 kills gives about 800-1000 points more. Dreaghon won by about 103 and it gave him just under 2000. See what I mean. I know everyone was watching because he was the last to live for three waves. We are smart but we decide not to think when people win all the time. just say they cheat. If someone like myself gets a score of 6000 or more I will record my times. But the thing is. I need others peoples also because it will give a me For instance factor. I need blues and Dreaghon, Merc, Hicky, T-money. Players that I know can give me a average score of 4500 points or more while they are trying. I can get a list and actaully break them down and if someone forsay AAAA is getting 300 kills with 5500 points and BBB is getting 400 kills with 6500. It that happens alot its then can be looked into.

PS. If someone is willing to do this Start a new Chat long. I will draft a spreadsheet that can give good basic and post it in a week or so of data or maybe less. All it takes if a pen and paper and write:

Gun: Flak
Artifact: Lighting Rod, TD
Kills:
Points:
Power ups: I'm only looking for one (the Award Power up)


I don't want to know what was used inf, damage, rage or anything. Not even the number of the gun because that is bringing into someones skill set and I'm not looking for that. Just looking for a average kill/pionts ratio so players like hicky/axe/myself/Merc/and Many others to calm down about he hacking and cheating.

I actaully was tossing everything I got because I got bounced off a couple times. Syngame helped out alot. I also jumped off and took Hicky's gun because he went into the trees but forgot his trans. I was just stayin for the 1000 after I lost four guns.

nu uh! i didn't even have my second inf nor a damage 5 until past wave 10

i had very little that map for the first 10 waves. i waited 5 waves puttering with mp5, golden to make flare launcher i used sparingly, then a summoned howitzer wop and used sparingly until i got an inf. then finally found my second on wave 12. and just as things were going good, i leap down to the "safe" trees on wave 14 to get a dumb titan beside a building, but i misjudged landing, died, lost howitzer and all, and started over D:

thankfully, a i got an inf the wave i returned, got a summon wave 16, and got a lady wave 17! from there, mostly everyone hid from army guys and they provided to give every darn pu since only a few were out there fighting and making sure nukes didn't ruin everything x,,x

during that wave i got a globe and fire rune. wave 18 i got triple damage and ice rune. and you can guess the mayhem i caused on wave 20 with those >:}

it was fun! but truly, its a bad map to get things, like how slaughterfest and warzone maps can be when so many are jumping and pushing to get even a shielded redeemer pu X}

Ortega wrote:Amy we wernt trying to fine who is better..

i know, just re-read, esp the 2. half of my post with the 1:1:1-server...

ats

But the pionts are giving on a full server. Need to stay in the game with a full server to compair points. I have played on the test server with 3-4 other people with nice weapons. Superweapons. You can't compair unless you have easy mods to kill because to be honest the its to hard to win a map with just 230+ people on the map. So you can't do a test server in the general sense because the mods are hard also there needs to be a full server or close there off

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I don't know how the hell drae got so many more kills than I did when we both had the same weapon, I had 11,000 points he had like 13,000 points, drae tell me your secret RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!