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Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:36 am**

Since some people seem to think that suiciding is not against the rules then maybe they should reread this http://monstermadness.iforumer.com/view ... termadness cause it there and in caps.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:24 am**

Gothicize wrote:Since some people seem to think that suiciding is not against the rules then maybe they should reread this http://monstermadness.iforumer.com/view ... termadness cause it there and in caps.

Since you and some admins apparently think that suiciding is against the rules, perhaps you should reread this:
http://monstermadness.iforumer.com/view ... termadness

joeyz wrote:3. Suicide is not illegal, you can do it if you like, there is a penalty for suicding, in fact I think in all game types, ut deducts a small amount of points for suicides. As with other servers, i added the function that if a player suicides, he does not keep the weapon he was holding, so you lose your weps as a penalty for suiciding. I made it so that if you suicide with while having ghost, resurrect, retention or denial, it wont work. Why? cause to many players trying to exploit the feature of trying to get more artifacts. I was going to take suicide completly out but left it in because suicide is helpful if your in a glitch or have bad weapons. However, i did instruct admins to watch people who constantly suicide at the end of waves just to get extra wrenches and those who constantly try suicide and combo speed exploits. I you want to suicide, go for it. But if your suiciding constantly at every wave then your up to something no good and should be kicked. Because suicide and combo speed is being abused as an exploit, I am coding some more checks to where it cant be used as an exploit. in the meantime, admins are to watch for cheating behaivors.

Sorry, but I will follow the word of Joeyz before I follow the word of any other admin who (A) thinks they know the rules as anything other than what Joeyz has stated, or (B) makes them up as they go along.

If I've collected all the weapons and half of them are negative, yes, I am going to suicide, as there's no easy way to repair a -1 WoP because I don't have a blue wrench skill, especially if someone has a rejuv+10 being passed out of the same weapon. If by the end of wave 2 or 3 the best weapon ANY player can come up with is no better than +3, yes, I am going to suicide. I'll take the XP hit if it means winning the map in the end, expecially if by doing so I can supply my teammates with a much better WoP than +3. If you look at it that way, you're essentially sacrificing yourself for the better of the team, and what better way than that to show teamwork, something that is repeatedly promoted here?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:47 am**

Try reading the whole thing especially the part that says getting more wrenches. Lets look at this post also http://monstermadness.iforumer.com/view ... termadness
Now im not saying suiciding is a bad thing but doing it repeatedly just so you can fish for a better weapon or get more wrenches. If people when they get a wop all use a purple wrench on it while passing it around instead of being selfish and only doing theres would promote better team work and no need to suicided for wrenches. If people would use the medic weapon maker on there non wops there is a better chance of getting a good weapon w/o having to suicide. I've had all negative weapons and what I do is put a retention on one of them and put a couple of power ups on it and then go find a titan so he can toss a rock at me since I can't get a mob of monsters to kill me w/o having everyone kill them.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:04 am**

Suicide is not illegal, you can do it if you like.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:08 am**

i did instruct admins to watch people who constantly suicide at the end of waves just to get extra wrenches

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:21 am**

. Suicide is not illegal, you can do it if you like.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:22 am**

Can we agree on this: Suiciding is not against the rules but you cant over do it just to get wrenches or phish for WOPs.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:38 pm**

Wow.....I never thought people would read so different. But Suiciding ISN'T against the rules. Its to be watch to see who "constantly" does it. Also does it hurt you Goth because your the only one crying about this. But let me ask you this. Have you ever took a gun from someone who golded it. They might of got it that way from Suiciding. This really shouldn't be a matter on thread after thread.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:29 pm**

Did I once say that is was illegal. No what I should have said is some people think it is ok to do so on every single map they play and as often as they like so they can get themselves a better weapon cause no one wants to give that person one or so they can get multiple wrenches so they can max out there wop instead of asking people to use there purple kit to max it out for them.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:25 pm**

SirBeast wrote:
Gothicize wrote:Since some people seem to think that suiciding is not against the rules then maybe they should reread this http://monstermadness.iforumer.com/view ... termadness cause it there and in caps.
Since you and some admins apparently think that suiciding is against the rules, perhaps you should reread this:
http://monstermadness.iforumer.com/view ... termadness

joeyz wrote:3. Suicide is not illegal, you can do it if you like, there is a penalty for suicding, in fact I think in all game types, ut deducts a small amount of points for suicides. As with other servers, i added the function that if a player suicides, he does not keep the weapon he was holding, so you lose your weps as a penalty for suiciding. I made it so that if you suicide with while having ghost, resurrect, retention or denial, it wont work. Why? cause to many players trying to exploit the feature of trying to get more artifacts. I was going to take suicide completly out but left it in because suicide is helpful if your in a glitch or have bad weapons. However, i did instruct admins to watch people who constantly suicide at the end of waves just to get extra wrenches and those who constantly try suicide and combo speed exploits. I you want to suicide, go for it. But if your suiciding constantly at every wave then your up to something no good and should be kicked. Because suicide and combo speed is being abused as an exploit, I am coding some more checks to where it cant be used as an exploit. in the meantime, admins are to watch for cheating behaivors.
Sorry, but I will follow the word of Joeyz before I follow the word of any other admin who (A) thinks they know the rules as anything other than what Joeyz has stated, or (B) makes them up as they go along.

Ok Beast this is directly from Joeyz and posted in the sticky "From the desk of Joeyz"

I put a few key points in blue to settle this ridiculous argument (from all players) once and for all.

Directly from Joeyz second post on the thread I mentioned...

joeyz wrote: 3. Suicide is not illegal, you can do it if you like, there is a penalty for suicding, in fact I think in all game types, ut deducts a small amount of points for suicides. As with other servers, i added the function that if a player suicides, he does not keep the weapon he was holding, so you lose your weps as a penalty for suiciding. I made it so that if you suicide with while having ghost, resurrect, retention or denial, it wont work. Why? cause to many players trying to exploit the feature of trying to get more artifacts. I was going to take suicide completly out but left it in because suicide is helpful if your in a glitch or have bad weapons. However, i did instruct admins to watch people who constantly suicide at the end of waves just to get extra wrenches and those who constantly try suicide and combo speed exploits. I you want to suicide, go for it. But if your suiciding constantly at every wave then your up to something no good and should be kicked. Because suicide and combo speed is being abused as an exploit, I am coding some more checks to where it cant be used as an exploit. in the meantime, admins are to watch for cheating behaivors.

Syn can only read these words though

"Suicide is not illegal" then for some odd reason he forgets how to read :shock:

So if I am in game or webadmin and you suicide more than twice I will warn you. Do it again, I will warn you one more time, after that I will kick you (three strikes and all). If you come back and do it again, I will kick you again and then kick you every time you log in for the entire next map.

There will be excpetions depending on the circumstance. IE you get ghosted into a mesh or texture or some place you can't get out of and have already suicided two or three times, I won't kick you. I'm not a moron :D But suiciding just to get a new set of wrenches or to upgrade your wop to a +10 will get you kicked (unless you got a +7 or +8 then you'd only have to suicide 3 times :D ).

IF you are dumb enough to come back and do it again I will ban you for a week (at least) and tell Joeyz why you have been banned.

Sigh I can't believe I have to type this, but certain people that read my threads think they are all about them so....

When I said the word "you" in my last 2 paragraphs I wasn't talking about anybody in particular. You is a general term typically used to try to personally communicate with an individual whilst at the same time communicating with a group (ie forum postings).

Damn maybe that should be my signature :roll:

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