Vote about the forums word censors

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Do you think the word censoring on the forum needs a change?

Poll ended at Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:19 pm

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 19

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Post by BaronVonRotterdam » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:46 pm

Ok heres why we have censors in the first place (this should have been in my topic post lol)

Yes you guys make a valid point saying that "well why cant we swear on the forum when we can swear on the server?"

Though a valid point this is why. Anything I own I take pride for, it represents me. Thats why I like to take care of the things I own. If I buy anything with my own hard earned money I take great care of it because you never truly respect anything unless you sweat for it. Since I own and run this forum I want it taken care of. I don't want it looking like someones bathroom wall. I want it looking clean and professional. Its your choice whether or not you curse but there is no need for it. In the real world if you are looking for a professional and respectable well payed job you had better learn to speak without using profanity or you don't have a chance. So the censors are here to replace words that will degrade the integrity of this forum. If you find that your curse words are being replaced and you are annoyed then tough luck. Try speaking with some intelligence and none of your words will require censorship.
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Post by SirBeast » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:46 pm

Paintball wrote:Ok heres why we have censors in the first place (this should have been in my topic post lol)

Yes you guys make a valid point saying that "well why cant we swear on the forum when we can swear on the server?"

Though a valid point this is why. Anything I own I take pride for, it represents me. Thats why I like to take care of the things I own. If I buy anything with my own hard earned money I take great care of it because you never truly respect anything unless you sweat for it. Since I own and run this forum I want it taken care of. I don't want it looking like someones bathroom wall. I want it looking clean and professional. Its your choice whether or not you curse but there is no need for it. In the real world if you are looking for a professional and respectable well payed job you had better learn to speak without using profanity or you don't have a chance. So the censors are here to replace words that will degrade the integrity of this forum. If you find that your curse words are being replaced and you are annoyed then tough luck. Try speaking with some intelligence and none of your words will require censorship.
No offense Painttt, but what a load of bulls**t.

I am not talking about you wanting to take pride in something you own. That's a valid point. However, the minute you open something for public use, you know longer "own" it - those who utilize it do.

You're also right that in order to succeed in the professional world, you need to act, walk, and talk like a professional.
However, this forum is not "the professional world" - it's a forum for regular people who interact with each other in a VIDEO GAME - HARDLY professional in most any sense of the activity itself (look up "leisure" in the dictionary) - to act, walk, and talk as they would in their regular day-to-day activities.

Cursing is not about "integrity" in the forum - it's about expressing one's self in a way that is personal for whomever is doing the expressing. Also, in many cases it adds to the conveyance of emotion, something that in and of itself is difficult enough to do in a forum. Exactly how much "integrity" do you need when discussing matters involving a VIDEO GAME?

Try getting off your high horse, your soap box, whatever it is that makes you want to seem so high-and-mighty, and look at this for what it *IS* - not for what you IMAGINE it to be.

Simply put, it's enough that I go through the day at my professional job w/o cursing that I then have to go to someplace I relax/have fun and have some 14-year-old tell me to act professional and not cuss. Suck my hairy sweaty balls.

Try speaking with some intelligence? PHAH! Who the hell are you to judge what is intelligent and what is not? You don't even have a high school diploma yet, and probably don't even know what a diaphragm or a vibrating butterfly does.

It's not that I don't like you Painttt - I should hope you know otherwise. It's just that I get more than a little pissed when some PFY (Pimply-Faced Youth) some 20 years my younger tells me how I should be conducting myself during my leisure activities. I've lived too long and hard a life to put up with crap like that. Maybe you should bone up on your constitutional rights, particularly that whole First Amendment Right to Free Speech/Expression deal, before you set about judging others. One day the tables will be turned on you, and I guarantee you dislike it as much then as I do now.
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Post by Ortega » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:20 pm

I can't agrue with beast opinion, it a real world he is right. Paint you our right also. You can run the forum however you want. Its yours and no one but yourself can take it away. Wow- I'm actaully going to be nice today, lol. But beast is right. I'm accountant and I have a bad mouth but my lifestyle is my lifestyle. I work 8-5 in a tie ever day and have to keep my cool, I DO but when I don't have to Act like I care, then why should people when they don't. I don't judge anyone by what they do in life unless they do things to me. You might be smart on a computer but the real world Doesn't care and when you get some taste of the world. Try taking care of kids, pay a house payment, a cell phone, car. Then you can tell people that they aren't intellagant. But for someone to use a so called unsofistacted word doesn't make them stupid. I will admit I have a bad mouth. But for someone to tell me i'm unsuccesfull in a way makes no sense. When I owned a home at 21 and had two kids. Outside the game I have a great life. that is where Sirbeast is right. When you get older and so young person tells you your are stupid or unsofisticated it makes no sense when their kids are older or at your age. If my kid every called my something like that. He would be out and living life the HARD WAY. Yeah the game has put some words I'm not proud on back into my vocabualry but thats for myself to judge and no on else.
The only thing that is professional about Joey's server or this forum (no crack on the forum) but is Joey himself. To the rest of us its a GAME. I only have talked around here and there with Joey but he deserves a shot at Epic. Hell EPIC doesn't even deserve him. He does this because its his life and he wants to. Its a game for us but a passion and a job for him. He is awesome at what he does and if he was working for D.S. (DIP SHIT) EPIC UT3 (Soon to be renamed to UT09) would have been out by now.
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Post by brutt78 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:35 pm

people should be adult about what they write there is no need to use words that offend may be they should just cencor themselves then there wood be no reson to vote
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Post by BaronVonRotterdam » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:02 pm

Also might I add that google bots have been crawling the internet and have been attacking the forum for some time now. I got really tight on the word censors when they started posting links and images to pornography website. So if i remove a key word the links will be broken.

So thats why these words are blocked

pu$sy

di.ck

be'stiality

c0ck

p'orn

i.ncest

se.x toy

s.ex

ga.y

les.bian

so thats why those words were blocked. We were being flooded with pornogaphy bots so I replaced those words so the links broke and I also made it so you have to activate a link now thats in your email when you register to the forum.
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Post by draegohn » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:44 pm

i have no idea what to think about this, really. i think both sides are valid on the issue. i suppose i would say that maybe on a forum of forever-recorded text, perhaps a little less vulgarity might be the better. but, of course, when certain situations that make for strong anger are talked about, it is understandable why when one types it down, it hold the sense of upset that is had.

normally when i write emails or post on a forum, i hardly swear. but in live chat with others or in real life, i have the occasional swear word in for "effect" of getting a feeling across.

phuck you, smith wands!

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Post by hwsb » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:46 pm

Paintball wrote:Anything I own I take pride for, it represents me. Thats why I like to take care of the things I own. If I buy anything with my own hard earned money I take great care of it because you never truly respect anything unless you sweat for it. Since I own and run this forum I want it taken care of.
what did/do you have to pay for? i'm not being facetious, i'm genuinely curious.

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Post by ZombieSlayer » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:52 pm

Yes the law was overturned in some cases...but those cases did not deal with MINORs.

You have to consider both laws (child protection act being the second) when it comes to forums that allow minors to post. Not just the obscenity laws.

Oh and hswb suck it :finga: My comment was directed at the minors that only curse because it's cool. I find it hard that everyone they interact with curses as much as they do....so that arguement is crap.

Now onto the "ownership" issue. THERE IS NO CLEAR AND CONCISE LEGAL ANSWER. Ok is that clear? The government has failed to come up with a law that says definitavely that what you write on a forum is "yours" or the "founders".

Therefore Paint owns everything written here until otherwise challenged in a court of law.

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Post by BaronVonRotterdam » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:16 pm

Ok with some guidance from my dad I am also brought to this fact. Why use swearing in the first place? It only takes a moment to think of a word other than swearing. Swearing just shows that you are incapable of speaking intelligently. I am also going to bring up the fact of people getting angry because their posts are being edited by symbols of censorship. Well heres is what I have to say to that.

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Post by hwsb » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:25 pm

ZombieSlayer wrote:Oh and hswb suck it :finga: My comment was directed at the minors that only curse because it's cool. I find it hard that everyone they interact with curses as much as they do....so that arguement is crap.
you find it hard? in my pants? :<3:

and i don't believe the argument was that everyone curses as much as they(the subject) does, rather they(the subject's friends) curse more on average. or perhaps not, i've never actually seen any kind of study on it. :hwsb2:

and yes, the statement that people who "use curse words are less intelligent" is as asinine as it sounds. i know you didn't say it, but i don't feel like making a separate post.

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