Server crashes today we let it happen

[Archangel]

Maybe the PSU was the culprit........then again there still might be some other issues regarding the game in the server........

Let me ask this......Is the server privately owned or is he using a server service?

EDIT: Seems like alot of internet traffic up in Michigan, had problems getting on the forums. (That's my old stomping ground as I grew up near Pontiac)

[Amy Infless]

ok, you asked for it

* Certain mods not playing well with other mods
(conflicts)

you cant run 2 mods at the same time. i have never seen running two mods the same time, for example, its not possible to run the mod "chaos-ut" with the mod "jailbreak", or "red-orchestra" with "frag-ops". you only can extract mutators from them and try using it in other mods.
maybe you mean mutators, there are too many which wont work together.
a mutator is indeed a mod-ification. but in the ut-world mutators allways called mutators, and mods are new game-styles, like my examples, or extensions, like "return to na pali" for ut99.

* Bad maps.
(texture issues, maps that have alot going on, monsters getting stuck, too many spawn points etc.)

"maps that have alot going on". specify.

"too many spawn points ". i never heard it can cause trouble when we have too many of them. we allways had problems with maps with a handfull spawnpoints for players and/or monsters. resulting in telefragging other players when spawning at same place, or when "lucky", not spawning instead of beeing tfragged. resulting with spawning monsters
in the face of players. and not to forgot "wrong" spawnpoints to near at walls so tooo huge monsters like luzies spawn outside or under map.

* People playing outside the U.S.
(higher ping-rates, although from what I've seen the ping rates are at a good range from the people overseas)

as long joey keeps this server open FOR ALL, you have to deal with us overseas and you have to deal with the fact we are NOT ALLWAYS THE REASON FOR A LAGGY SERVER OR A SERVERCRASH! and if you dont know why read the posts about that or ask joey and cj, they can explain that better!

* Certain mods...
* Bad maps.
* Certain players downloading while playing.
* People playing outside the U.S

again: what have these 4 reasons to do with the servercompany?
for me: nothing.

and you know what you talkin about???

ats

[Amy Infless]

EDIT: Seems like alot of internet traffic up in Michigan, had problems getting on the forums.

i was told there are many countries havin hollidays now or next time. so if evry lil kid has now time to be in inet the next weeks 24/7, in europe too, you dont need to wonder when a server lags from this, or bad connections are "availabe" even for those who normally have ping 40 at the server...

so if you need 30hops (hop, something like a connection-"path-node") within usa to get to the mm-server, while we overseas need only 10 (*), it could be you cause more trouble with lower ping than we with high pings. but im sure you know this as admin. if not, or dont want believe that, again, (*) ask cj, he was able to explain me that in a way even i understood, whats going on, but its to hard to explain that again with my
own words...

ats

[Archangel]

Amy.......Your reading what I posted the wrong way.

1. When I was speaking of mods, I was mainly talking about mutators (didn't come to mind cause I've been away from gaming and a computer for over 8 months due to work) If I don't the correct "Vocabulary", sorry my bad.......I think you know what I mean.......heh

2. We are talking about why the server....ie the game is lagging or having problems and this could be a combination of a map and the way it's set up, plus the server hardware itself Now you said that would have nothing to do with it, but it can and does......Now I don't make maps, but I've done Beta testing for [GU] and some of their maps and found that maps can and do cause slowdowns in the game, especially if the map contains a great deal of annimations going on. Now, that could be a hardware issue too in regards to the server....ie CPU, memory type, hard drive speed etc.

3. As far as out-of-country players, such as yourself, I didn't say it was a MAJOR problem, But only a contributing factor as with higher ping rates. By the way, I'm all for anyone and everyone playing.

4. I don't claim to be a know-it-all in UT04, in fact I know very little about the programing side of things. But, like I said before, I have been play UT since it's inception. I just like to play and be competitive like everyone else. My forte' is mainly hardware as my hobby is building and oc'ing my rigs as the one I'm one right now.

I don't have anything against you Amy and don't want to start a pissing match between us.

[CrackRock]

there are a lot of new players who dont know what happened the last time there was too much bitching. to them i just gotta say if you dont like it dont play on the server. i hate hearing that shit. especially, when the server has a bunch of noobs on it, that is when the server has the most problems. nobody wants to hear you cry about bs. try to be part of the solution. not add to the frustrastion... or joeyz might just shut it all down again. Joeyz speands more time f**king with this server than anything. if i was joeyz id hear the bitchin and shut down the server right before going to iraq. so please, if you hear a bunch of bitchin, remind whoever to check out the fourms so the might learn something about this server. :drool:

[Archangel]

there are a lot of new players who dont know what happened the last time there was too much bitching. to them i just gotta say if you dont like it dont play on the server. i hate hearing that shit. especially, when the server has a bunch of noobs on it, that is when the server has the most problems. nobody wants to hear you cry about bs. try to be part of the solution. not add to the frustrastion... or joeyz might just shut it all down again. Joeyz speands more time f**king with this server than anything. if i was joeyz id hear the bitchin and shut down the server right before going to iraq. so please, if you hear a bunch of bitchin, remind whoever to check out the fourms so the might learn something about this server. :drool:

LOL..........I might be seeing Joey in Iraq (hopefully I have a decent gaming laptop with me as I applied to a few security contract companies working over there. I'm hoping it's within the next few weeks.

But, as far as the bitchin.......hey, we can go to another server (which I have no desire to do) or we can let the powers to be know of the problems encountered and try and resolve them.......Then there will be reduced bitching....

[BoneofMalkav]

like "return to na pali" for ut99.

isn't it Return to Napali for Unreal or UnrealGold?

[Amy Infless]

like "return to na pali" for ut99.

isn't it Return to Napali for Unreal or UnrealGold?

requirements:
cpu-166mhz
ram-32mb
hd-100mb
win95/98nt
can be used with unreal or unreal tournament(99/g.o.t.y.)

workin with both...
my german version did!

and its "na pali" with a space, not "napali"...well..the german version



ats

ps: can someone help me? i cant remember where else i have seen the monster in the photo....

[Chuckles]

all i know is that UT2007 is codenamed ENVY?

Too many spawn points is not a problem, but too few or badly placed ones are.

And Joeyz has very politely requested that players use standard out of the box standard or game of the year skins until he gets the skin fix in place, it's not sever law ATM just a request to reduce lagg from a known source.

(On a personal note most of my enjoyment of the game comes from using my fave skins. which i have forgone using, in order to be a less laggy player)

I have very little pity for peeps whinging about lagg when they are wearing custom skins or are bugged and have not tried letting a monster kill them to see if they get their weapons back. (most times getting killed by a monster fixes weapon loss for me when i come back next wave)

(not sure if it will help or not, here's another suggestion you might try if you are severely lagged and on a low end system, logging off for about 20 minutes, i heard sometimes lagg is caused by the server getting backed up cuz some systems cant keep up with the data feed - or is that a net myth? anyone know?)

[BoneofMalkav]

like "return to na pali" for ut99.

isn't it Return to Napali for Unreal or UnrealGold?

requirements:
cpu-166mhz
ram-32mb
hd-100mb
win95/98nt
can be used with unreal or unreal tournament(99/g.o.t.y.)

workin with both...
my german version did!

and its "na pali" with a space, not "napali"...well..the german version



ats

ps: can someone help me? i cant remember where else i have seen the monster in the photo....

German version's always been diffrently spaced from the american version as far as I know.I think it's to do with the box art itself. And also I got UnrealGold and UT99 GOTY working almost perfectly on vista.Waiting for the next version of the third party OpenGL renderer.But yea about RTNP on UT99,Yea they work just you gotta get the coop made maps from some site,forgot what it is tbh.Oh well....right now I gotta finish RTNP,I have a feeling I'm almost done on that...

I shall leave with this...
"I've been caught in a mind riot"