well...ok, its not always easy. when the low levels die and the monsters levels increase, they tend to hurt..a lot. and that osama is the worst of them all, even more than wands at such a time. but i still feel super weps summoning chances have been upped too much. lower the chances to get wand/ak/enhanced ssr and increase it for mini rl/combat shotgun/lazer rifle/lady.
ssr mini pu, as i have been a bit bitchy about , still needs rethinking. its too common and there is at least one ssr mini going every map, sometimes up to 4 of them. as i said in another post, the pu needs done away with, and this weapon be summonable instead. if super lucky is made to not summon keys and chests, then i think it should also be in the weps chest too.
only those of us with higher levels have this criticism...we tend to like the challenge challenge and the only real thing that really can kill use easily are wands any more, no matter what weapon we hold. i remember being lower in level and dying easily and finding it frustrating, but it was wonderful gaining more levels, adding special skills, and lasting longer until making it to wave 20 alive and not hiding was such a good feeling of achievement. when i started here, there were just 16 waves and not godlike difficulty. then it became godlike, and it was a bit harder. then it became godlike and with 20 waves, and that wave 18 at first was hard to adjust to and man, most of the time we didn't make it past that. then more people got higher in level and we adapted and now passed that. then there was a period of time where winning needed great skill and teamwork, and no matter what weapon you had (even wand or lady), other weapons in the right hands could do better and be more effective. then with this recent change..well..all these super weapons so much and the ssr mini going around like crazy, and more maps easily won than ever..it feels like there has been a step back.
i am only adding my personal thoughts on the matter and i am not condemning things as badly to the point that i am like sitting here fuming (except my opinions are very strong of ssr mini pu and nukes). its still hard at times, many maps aren't won, though when i am playing and with a super weapon, the map is almost always won. i guess it all comes down to what has been most appealing to a lot of us...the challenge and the special feelings of finding chests/keys that were hard to, and that warm feeling of seeing one summon a lady or wand when it was considered a blessing to get either of those in just like 10 hours of playing.
my most favorite moments here have been when things were extremely difficult and so intense, your heart feels like its about to thump out of your chest. i am finding that feeling present less and less because a lot now have wonderweapons and such moments are fewer. and i am hearing at times i get a wand/ak/mini ssr that i am hogging all the enemies, and yes, it is true. if i get these weps, i will use them and to the best i can as if was trying to kill just as much with my little mp5.
please don't take all this like me being all angsty and bitchy, i just kinda miss the way things felt because it was unique, rare, and a win against greater oddout of favor felt more fuulfilling. all this, even if not changs, is not going to keep me away from the best invasion server there was or ever will be ^,,^/
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To be honest, the only thing that keeps me coming back at this point is the people. Alot of you i enjoy playing with, so i come back. Sadly i find myself taking the invasion maps less and less seriously....passing on weapons and pu's cause I am not worried about building super weapons. Even sadder...i usually still randomly pick up a ssr pu or summon a nuke. I guess nukes with resupply was deemed a good idea again, so those get spammed. Who wants to play some carball? :stupid: ](*,)
"Never argue with an idiot, they will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
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"When all else fails, use fire"
Exactly as Knave said.. The people are coo on this server and we like playing with our friends. When things have struck us strang, we talk about it. Its human to talk about things that give you problems and see if we can work to a new outcome that suits everbody, although its impossable to please everone. I believe that in a suitable enviroment we can all reach a nice common ground. Nobodys bitching or whining, where just talking Beast.... Whats so wrong about pointing out things that have struck us strangly about something we truly like? Thats whats partly good about this server, Joey listens to us. Asides from that, diying from wands and a server being easy don't go hand in hand in my openion. You can flood one wave with wands and it will still be easy due to the number of super wepons flying around. Besides, when I speak of "easyness" im focusing on the building wepons aspect. SSR and that SSR sniper rifle and stuff don't need contruction which, in my eyes, leads to a more "lazy" player which breeds n00bs. Theirs only so much you can do agenst computer wands.
Just to stay clear, nobodys really bitching about anything. Where just discussing how it is, as noted in the very first post of this thread. So chill wit that stuff.
Just to stay clear, nobodys really bitching about anything. Where just discussing how it is, as noted in the very first post of this thread. So chill wit that stuff.
If you'd brought the point up once for discussion, I'd agree. But EVERY TIME I see you one the server you're moaning about "The (SSR/wand/AK47) is a weapon forSesshyru wrote:(clip) Nobodys bitching or whining, where just talking Beast.... Whats so wrong about pointing out things that have struck us strangly about something we truly like?
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Just to stay clear, nobodys really bitching about anything. Where just discussing how it is, as noted in the very first post of this thread. So chill wit that stuff.
- just use your MP5 like a real player!" - EVERY TIME!! Sorry, but having to hear about it so often constitutes whining in my book, ESPECIALLY when you'd doing IN-GAME, ON THE SERVER, WHEN YOU'RE ONLY SPECTATING You aren't even PLAYING THE FRIGGING GAME and are bemoaning it. So don't give me this "discussing it" B.S. because discussing it does NOT constitute constantly DISSING the players who ARE using those weapons. And don't try to tell me you don't, because the chat logs will show otherwise.I will consistently sacrifice political correctness for an attempt at humor. If ya can't deal, then ya need ta stop being ign'ant.
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I agree with Beast and Knave, and sess. But beast you do know that if the high level players come on its a easy win. I plaied last night and played 4-5 maps but we only lost one (because we voted out. censored up map, voted in wave 1)
If you get 3-4 high players its a map win. Which is cool and all. My only thing why I don't play that much is because the new players are crying for the ssr pu. and other super weapons. Beast you remember a year ago. If you picked a gold up you were the hottest person in the game. Because no one had it. There would be only one or two (max) super weapons. Now its like 5-6. Even though I have yet to get a AK. Dave did give me the SSR PU since he had a wand last night or I would still be without a Super weapon. But in regards to any luck. I have been using a MP5 1 or 2 and a flak of 2,3 since I don't ask people that much for anything. I do think the server could pick it up in wave 19-20 just a little. But the main problem is the super weapons for ever person.
If you get 3-4 high players its a map win. Which is cool and all. My only thing why I don't play that much is because the new players are crying for the ssr pu. and other super weapons. Beast you remember a year ago. If you picked a gold up you were the hottest person in the game. Because no one had it. There would be only one or two (max) super weapons. Now its like 5-6. Even though I have yet to get a AK. Dave did give me the SSR PU since he had a wand last night or I would still be without a Super weapon. But in regards to any luck. I have been using a MP5 1 or 2 and a flak of 2,3 since I don't ask people that much for anything. I do think the server could pick it up in wave 19-20 just a little. But the main problem is the super weapons for ever person.
Later all!
Exactly, the flavor of a "super" wepon is the fact that its rare and takes a lot to get it making the experence of having it more enjoyable. Now that the 'newbs' on joeys server are geting drunk with power and can't seem to even score over 200 in 18 waves with out their precious super wepon, then somethings wrong.
Id like to address a nother thing. Many people equate thoes who strive for high points to be 'selfish'. Id like to point a fiew things out, which are from me and im not predicating that everybody should see this or even agree with it.
Points = kills = powerups = better wepons = more points = more kills = the team is doing that much better from one person striving to kill more and stop the invasion. Equating High scoreing players to being non-team players makes no sense, because if you have high points, your killing a lot and pulling your wheight. Thoes with low points are draging down, especialy when you can get more if not hiding or trading useless pus'. Now that super wepons are more and more populating the server, their are people who score high one game with the super wepon, and score absolutly 0 with out them and beg all game for stuff. I believe the super wepons being so popular and powerful have lead to this.
Thats what I think at least... Please comment.
Id like to address a nother thing. Many people equate thoes who strive for high points to be 'selfish'. Id like to point a fiew things out, which are from me and im not predicating that everybody should see this or even agree with it.
Points = kills = powerups = better wepons = more points = more kills = the team is doing that much better from one person striving to kill more and stop the invasion. Equating High scoreing players to being non-team players makes no sense, because if you have high points, your killing a lot and pulling your wheight. Thoes with low points are draging down, especialy when you can get more if not hiding or trading useless pus'. Now that super wepons are more and more populating the server, their are people who score high one game with the super wepon, and score absolutly 0 with out them and beg all game for stuff. I believe the super wepons being so popular and powerful have lead to this.
Thats what I think at least... Please comment.
In a broad sense I'm not tring to brag but I still score high and I give my gun away to players who just joined for shit of my gun to help others. I do get the Super Speeds back fairly quick sometimes and sometimes I don't. I do sometimes try to stay with Drae but it depends if I can get the Damage or Rage power ups. I do have to give props to him because he started a nice thing of splashing the power ups in a loop. Not just on big bunch on power ups.
I think on the super weapons issue your right though sess. they should be rare and who erks me I guess is when People get them and by the end on the map and I know drae was using a mp5 and flak combo like I was. My mp5 was a power of 1. and the flak a 2 that i turned. So nothing great is going on those guns but s inf and d-5 and ss and prot 5 and they are about full. I still got second behinf drae and there was a litle lady in the game and ak 47. both on the players lived and yet they couldn't keep up with drae who scored the most. But I sort of lost interest and left when my mp5 power that I wrenched to make it a big 1. I still got second. I dont mind super weapons but they should be on the leaderboard. But what makes me not really play is like you said sess. If they don't get the super weapon of that plus 9 or 10 weapon they don't play and they beg for the ssr pu. To much crying for super weapons. or high weapons. The new people don't try unless they get a super weapon or a great weapon because there going to die. Man I got my ass kicked for a long time.
Your points= kills= better weapons. thing sess is full of bull ..>LOL. I can win the map and not get a dang super weapon of a good WOP and the person with 5 kills get a super weapon and still score low.
I think on the super weapons issue your right though sess. they should be rare and who erks me I guess is when People get them and by the end on the map and I know drae was using a mp5 and flak combo like I was. My mp5 was a power of 1. and the flak a 2 that i turned. So nothing great is going on those guns but s inf and d-5 and ss and prot 5 and they are about full. I still got second behinf drae and there was a litle lady in the game and ak 47. both on the players lived and yet they couldn't keep up with drae who scored the most. But I sort of lost interest and left when my mp5 power that I wrenched to make it a big 1. I still got second. I dont mind super weapons but they should be on the leaderboard. But what makes me not really play is like you said sess. If they don't get the super weapon of that plus 9 or 10 weapon they don't play and they beg for the ssr pu. To much crying for super weapons. or high weapons. The new people don't try unless they get a super weapon or a great weapon because there going to die. Man I got my ass kicked for a long time.
Your points= kills= better weapons. thing sess is full of bull ..>LOL. I can win the map and not get a dang super weapon of a good WOP and the person with 5 kills get a super weapon and still score low.
Later all!
That's probably because they get plastered over the walls by the monsters as they don't know how to wop properly. I know I sure did ^_^Sesshyru wrote:...Now that the 'newbs' on joeys server are geting drunk with power and can't seem to even score over 200 in 18 waves with out their precious super wepon, then somethings wrong...