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[joeyz]

I think you all need to calm down. Be careful of accusing someone of cheating; unless you can prove it. But do wanna say thanks for reporting a possible cheat/cheater.

There are some things you dont know. Even though I am not in game, I do watch or check server logs. I also check the databases. I look for cheaters, program holes, dup IPs, CD Hash Keys and other exploits.

We also programmed it so the server log reveals everytime someone messes around with their RPG stats (see example). Its a point audit system if you will. This is simply use to monitor people who keep resetting their stat points. If someone does it on every wave and map, then thats a good indication that someone is trying to exploit the RPG stat system. Our logs records a player's pattern.

example (server log):
ScriptLog: REFUND: King_Eddie had 939 total stat points at Level 145, should be 1440, PointsAvailable changed by 501 to compensate.

This is a popular server and it would be dumb to cheat. Cheaters eventually get caught. If the person has any sense, he would not cheat. Its only a matter of time before the cheater is caught and banned. If someone wants to risk that, go ahead, he/she will be banned. Then he/she can go play on standard UT servers.

A player who configures/manages their stat points, abilities and weapons better than others is not cheating. I will check more into this matter concerning the player(s) accused of cheating. In the meantime, these players have the benefit of the doubt, they are good players. Just remember, this is a godlike server and 50% of the players who playe here have been playing RPG/Invasion for a long time.

Providing the examples below of the two players database, as you can see, T-Money has level 10 Enhanced Damage and level 10 Enhanced Damage Reduction.

[T-Money RPGPlayerDataObject]
OwnerID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Level=244
Experience=38090
WeaponSpeed=200
HealthBonus=500
AdrenalineMax=200
Attack=500
Defense=500
AmmoMax=55
PointsAvailable=26
NeededExp=xxxxxx
ExperienceFraction=0.350427
BotAbilityGoal=None
BotGoalAbilityCurrentLevel=0
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityExtraJumps'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAmmoRegen'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAdrenalineRegen'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityGhost'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAwareness'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityLoadedHealing'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityNoWeaponDrop'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityVampire'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityTeamVamping'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAdrenalineSurge'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityEnhancedReduction'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.ClassWeaponsMaster'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityEnhancedDamage'
Abilities=Class'EnhancedWeaponsOfPower_v176.AbilityBuyGoldWrench'
Abilities=Class'EnhancedWeaponsOfPower_v176.AbilityBuyPurpleWrench'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityExpHealing'
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=2
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=2
AbilityLevels=7
AbilityLevels=2
AbilityLevels=2
AbilityLevels=10
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=10
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=2

[draegohn RPGPlayerDataObject]
OwnerID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Level=262
Experience=89445
WeaponSpeed=200
HealthBonus=462
AdrenalineMax=200
Attack=500
Defense=500
AmmoMax=110
PointsAvailable=0
NeededExp=xxxxxx
ExperienceFraction=0.425670
BotAbilityGoal=None
BotGoalAbilityCurrentLevel=0
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAmmoRegen'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilitySpeed'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityShieldStrength'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityEnhancedReduction'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.ClassWeaponsMaster'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityEnhancedDamage'
Abilities=Class'EnhancedWeaponsOfPower_v176.AbilityBuyGoldWrench'
Abilities=Class'EnhancedWeaponsOfPower_v176.AbilityBuyPurpleWrench'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAdrenalineSurge'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityExtraJumps'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityFastWeaponSwitch'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityGhost'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityAwareness'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityTeamVamping'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityVampire'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityNoWeaponDrop'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityJumpZ'
Abilities=Class'WOPMonsterPack_v176.AbilityRetaliate'
Abilities=Class'EnhancedWeaponsOfPower_v176.AbilityBuyBlueWrench'
AbilityLevels=4
AbilityLevels=5
AbilityLevels=4
AbilityLevels=10
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=10
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=2
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=1
AbilityLevels=4
AbilityLevels=2
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=3
AbilityLevels=1


admin

[TMoney96]

LoL@ showing our stats. MMMM level 7 vamp sure comes in handy!I actually just got a better idea. I usually dont use propulsion powerups cause I use spread damage or beam weapons. However, I was on an OPEN map with the ssr mini and decided to try one on it. It was so crazy, ONE propulsion makes the ssr mini at least 3 times stronger if you have max damage, didnt even have rage on! It was just rediculous, yeah on an open map the ssr mini is very powerful, but I could only see about 1/3 to 1/2 of the monsters from waves 13-20 cause of lag, and I still got 9600 before blindly running into a vortex 2/3 through wave 20! I had an lrod in the last 2 waves but still, i did very well heheh mostly thanks to the maps openess.

On wave 15 and 16 I could see, and it literally killed queens and titans instantly. I guess if everyone is gonna use propulsion on the mp5 I better use it on superweps heheh. Seriously though, PROPULSION NEEDS TO BE EDITED. Its just WAY too strong. its basically another version of vorpal except it propulsions 100% so its like 10 times better. It should be made so it doesnt always propell monsters, or so it doesnt multiply damage as much. Its too powerful!

The thing I always wondered the most is how draeghon and his aliases ALWAYS seen to get propulsion in the first few waves. I hardly get them, about as much as I get a super speed or iron sturdy. I guess its probobly because he steals so many powerups with speed stacking. Heheh I do it to though, stackin the speed combo with a speed 5 or ss or a few regular speeds so you can outrun everyone. He definitly pisses me off doing it cause he always seems to take pups from ME, but everyone does it so what can ya do. Anyways, I hope you guys will agree that propulsion needs to be tweaked!

[Nard]

I'm telling you guys riiiiiight now. If I were at Draegohn's or T-Money's level i would kick just as much ass as them. But...I don't feel like it <--- hate these smileys

[clnk_I.N.S.]

This post will cover a few subjects all at once.

I have told everyone that Anna is not an admin. Joey hasn't set her up as and admin yet. She is not an admin. Annabeaver has yet to be made and admin.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR THE SLOW WITS OUT THERE?

Anna I'm sorry I had to repeat that so often, it is not a dig against you. I just felt that the less intelligent players needed it to be redundant.

sigh now that my rant is done.

DRAEGHON AND TMONEY DO NOT CHEAT! IT HAS BEEN LOOKED INTO AND NO EVIDENCE WAS FOUND! Is that clear enough for you slow wits?

Yes the mp5 can kick major monster butt with few exceptions. But guess what...so does the shield gun. That shield gun with rage and max damage pwns those soldiers.

Yes drae is a hell of a lot better with his aim than most of you are.

Face it, most of you have crappy aim. So do I. Big deal. Get over yourselves. I was watching the Simpsons Sunday night and there was a sign at a little league field that read "You child isn't as good as you think he is".

That goes for the majority of players on this server.

Being the highest level player doesn't mean you're the best. That's a little on the ridiculous side and those that believe that...well....I truly do feel sorry for you. All that means is they've been playing longer and with the right group of people to level up faster.

Oh and since he was mentioned...yes AXE can be an ass. However axe is a pretty decent guy. He just doesn't take crap from people and thinks every pu in the game is his :rub:

So next time he starts going off about a summons or inf or superspeed.....just type aw :butthead: Then continue playing. Nobody owns the powerups on the ground.

So the next poster that accuses drae or tmoney of cheating will get banned for 1 week for harrassment.

I since this is pretty much directed towards my post. As such, I will reply with a more personal tone than the last. Listen up and listen good you spaz addict. If you had half my I.Q. you would have been able to read my post thouroughly and understand the words stated. I NEVER SAID ANNA WAS AN ADMIN IN THIS POST! YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE WHO MENTIONED THAT! I NEVER accused either of cheating. Read it again, and THINK REAL HARD about what I said. If you could count to your age you would know the difference between saying someone CAN be using an aimbot, and someone IS using an aimbot. Now, as for your assumption of his aim vs. everyone else. How dare you grow the testicular fortitude to tell me how good I am and how long I have been playing? You know one thing about me, my game name. I am sure that out of the other 60 some ppl that regularly visit this server, you may be personal with 5, possibly 10. As for your sorrow, stow it. I don't need pity, remorse, or sympathy. I log on to this GAME everyday the same way you do! The only difference is, I log off a MAN! Not a child! As for AXE, I have already lost respect for him as a person and player, BUT I still obey the rules. And I hope he never says anything too important as he has been added to my IGGY list for a while now.


JOEYZ~There are some things you dont know. Even though I am not in game, I do watch or check server logs. I also check the databases. I look for cheaters, program holes, dup IPs, CD Hash Keys and other exploits.

I think this is great, and you are right, I did not know that you guys did EVEN MORE monitoring and LESS playing. I personally apologize for all the B.S. you guys have to put up with on the daily basis. As I watched you patching the other day and can't imagine all that and coming in to drama too! There are a few good men on your staff Joey, but IMO most are just looking for a fight or only looking out for themselves.

[draegohn]

moneyman, and everyone else, propulsion is not the only pu that enhanced the damaging effect as was stated before nard's. knockback and pullforward pus do the same thing, though somehow propulsion's effect is instantiated with each hit, while the other two are like every few hits it seems. if i don't get propulsion, but run across one of the other 2, i use them until i find propulsion. sometimes in earlier waves i am happy to find pullforwards pu, because that draws enemies to you, and thus, their pus as well when they die :D

t, talk bout pu "stealing" in earlier waves..you trans to every inf, summon, or damage 5 as i have witnessed i lack trans skill, so yeah, i run to things in hopes i can get them.

i also think i learned the speed hack thing people kept talking about. last night on osiris2. its not a hack per se, like messing with server stuff, but since joey is actually forum-interacting today it seems, i will relay the situation that gave me insane speed last night.

so, i had a flak poison 3 i golded and got razor and other pus, including superspeed on it. about wave 8 or so, brut wanted to juggle my flak so he could get one with more slots to use. i go to him near the flak spot, and i toss it, but so many enemies were around pushing us all around the place. i pick up, try again, pick up again, try again, then finally i was able to toss it to him. he tossed back then...and after that i was running so fast i couldn't even play effectively!

so i think tossing gun to ground a few times and picking up causes the superspeed stacking on itself..or..tossing to someone and getting it back resets one's own superspeed speed value thus, doubling it or more. now what i might try is to toss a weapon with superspeed on ground near the same weapons spawn point, pick up a new, toss that, then grab the wop with ss on it and see if it works. oh! and i do know this happens for a fact since these situation have happened with me..someone tossed you a gun with ss so they can suicide, or you pick up a newb's gun they lost when dying that had ss on it...and even though you don't have the weapon selected, you are still moving with a superspeed effect.

this would explain some things..i have seen some people toss their guns and pick them up again, which seemed to make no sense. so, this is probably what they do. i also recall many times that after ghosting or dying, that returning makes one's superspeed even more faster as well.

it was weird to see my stats all posted like that..i feel so exposed and naked now :o perhaps the others want to see my jylon character's too? :}

whee, i type too much! yes, though, here is more of my input on shtuff ^o^

[ZombieSlayer]

Yes my post followed yours INS. Yes some of it was directed at you (the Anna bit mostly because it came across as you thinking she was an admin).

However most of it was directed towards others. I even said my post would cover more than 1 subject.

Oh and get over yourself. I'll spectate you (one of these days) in first person and then tell you if I think your aim is as good as Draes.

Oh and you should re-read my post closer. I said majority and most....not all. I also never said you were a slow wit. You need to stop reading between the lines and realize that I was speaking to many different people in one post and not just you :roll:

[MAINSTRAIN]

I have read and read and read some more, ENOUGH please for the love of all that is holy and merry, its a game, its fun, can we just leave it at that and not fight, not accuse people of whatever your minds can conjure up? For the sake of the server, the admins, Joeyz, and players give it a rest and play the game!

[TurkeyFromHell]

can we just leave it at that and not fight, not accuse people of whatever your minds can conjure up?

i think main is botting with a program his purple demon satanist monkey wrote him in exchange for oral sex

[SirBeast]

AXE is pretty much the ONLY admin in the server on a regular basis

No, I would daresay that I see ZombieSlayer on there as often as AXE if not moreso.

[SirBeast]

This post will cover a few subjects all at once.

I have told everyone that Anna is not an admin. Joey hasn't set her up as and admin yet. She is not an admin. Annabeaver has yet to be made and admin.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR THE SLOW WITS OUT THERE?

Anna I'm sorry I had to repeat that so often, it is not a dig against you. I just felt that the less intelligent players needed it to be redundant.

sigh now that my rant is done.

DRAEGHON AND TMONEY DO NOT CHEAT! IT HAS BEEN LOOKED INTO AND NO EVIDENCE WAS FOUND! Is that clear enough for you slow wits?

Yes the mp5 can kick major monster butt with few exceptions. But guess what...so does the shield gun. That shield gun with rage and max damage pwns those soldiers.

Yes drae is a hell of a lot better with his aim than most of you are.

Face it, most of you have crappy aim. So do I. Big deal. Get over yourselves. I was watching the Simpsons Sunday night and there was a sign at a little league field that read "You child isn't as good as you think he is".

That goes for the majority of players on this server.

Being the highest level player doesn't mean you're the best. That's a little on the ridiculous side and those that believe that...well....I truly do feel sorry for you. All that means is they've been playing longer and with the right group of people to level up faster.

Oh and since he was mentioned...yes AXE can be an ass. However axe is a pretty decent guy. He just doesn't take crap from people and thinks every pu in the game is his :rub:

So next time he starts going off about a summons or inf or superspeed.....just type aw :butthead: Then continue playing. Nobody owns the powerups on the ground.

So the next poster that accuses drae or tmoney of cheating will get banned for 1 week for harrassment.

WOOHOOHOO!!! Well-said Zombie! YOU ROCK!