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Who thinks the server is to hard?

I do because I don't like a challenge
2
12%
I love a challenge for the win even if it takes 10 maps
15
88%
 
Total votes: 17

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draegohn
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Post by draegohn » Thu May 31, 2007 5:55 pm

you have a point, amy, in that it can be difficult for those under level 130 to get or do much but hope for the map win points most of the time...but only if they have not yet got the gold wrench skill, which is what is needed most to be able to start getting more involved in the fighting and killing well. even last night i discovered a level 145 had not yet got gold wrench when he was begging for a spare one for his ak he summoned. that skills needs bought at no later than level 80.

now, to truly be fragworthy here, the following is needed: max stats of dr, db, and health. vampirism level 3, awareness level 1, adrenline stat 150 to buy adrenal surge level 1 and 2, gold wrench skill, resupply 2 with ammo stat of 80 (for starting with mp5 wave 1), weapon speed 150, ghost/resurrcetion 2 or 3. all this can be acquired around level 190-200 or sooner i believe. i have a lot of points in other skills and such, which really just give a bit more edge, but nothing spectacular.

the rest is gaming style and ability. for people who are levels 120 or higher, hiding, sniping, or pointless spamming projectiles in hopes of hitting something won't do a thing to help them do better. last night, scion, level 165 (or close to this), was nearly kicking my butt with his low slot enhanced ssr while i used high slot flak with blast on a horrible map (small in dimensions but for height, many passages, no long walls or such). he did fantastic under this difficulty, with only 5 players playing, and wasn't hiding even though he was subject to dying at his medium level easily.

as mentioned in the kurt ban post..you tend to hide in corners and such, hoping to get something near you. well, i can tell you what i do. i shoot at everything i can, even across map, to get the kill. i don't obsess over pus, or killing nearby things only in hope of getting their pus they let out. i just kill whatever i can what is first seen from the last kill, be it near or far, in early waves. in later waves, i start choosing for bigger, strong enemy types to get more experience, which also means they tend to give more score. only waves 17 and 19 i keep focused on what is closest to me since the army guys are rather plentiful, and dangerous!

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Post by Amy Infless » Thu May 31, 2007 6:45 pm

draegohn wrote:..adrenline stat 150 to buy adrenal surge level 1 and 2, gold wrench skill, resupply 2 with ammo stat of 80 (for starting with mp5 wave 1), weapon speed 150, ghost/resurrcetion 2 or 3. all this can be acquired around level 190-200...
you say it, "around level 190-200...this is highlevel enough to be really good when all abilitys are good chosen ones and not wasted into non-workin things. but you forgot those who are beginners. and not all read your manifest how to do and not all have enough experience to start with lvl10 like you did with a 2. char and be level 1xx in shortest time again.
and btw, i not really understand why wasting into adren when i need 30maps to get 1td or 1globe or 1lrod, while it looks like all highlevler have it evry 2.wave
this is what i want know more: im not interested in how to have the most powerfull weapon with this or that pu. i want know the mathematic, which is behind that fact only the same have all the summons all the time, getting infs first all the time, getting tds, globes, lrods all the time, and i dont want hear "because i run around while others hide", thats bs, cause many run around and kill mons and try pick things up, its not allways "only you". and btw, i want know the mathematics too which is behind that fact, allways the same have every map luck with getting wand, ak, lilly. or: ak, lilly, wand. or lilly, wand, ak. etc. and btw i wonder why often the same who use these weapons cry here in forum about to much instagibby weps... why not givin them to lowerleveld and try beeing a hero with a "noob-bio/link/shock"?
draegohn wrote:as mentioned in the kurt ban post..you tend to hide in corners and such, hoping to get something near you...
believe me the last thing i want is kurt near me

i dunno "tend to hide". sure i did it often last time cause i tested that magic-pu a lot, must say it helped me out more often than players did. esp when there is no inf till wave 17... but thats not point. i didnt wanted to hide in in that kurta#f#map,and those who know me and spec me know, im not really a hider, i just start to hide when its getting to dangerous esp. when i see more and more player die and im one of the last ones but still resurected one time, so its time to start to search for a more save point than trying play rambo. like i said i runned backwards, watching radar to be sure no monster behind me cause i resurected cause of wand. i have no eyes behind me and it wasnt my plan to hide, and instead of going through door in tunnel to be more save i landed near it in dead end. rest is history.

btw. did you know how hard it is hitting with instas or mini or mp5 with a ping around 180-200? i need more spammy weapons to compensate that and the luck, many "fat" mosnters not movin fast like a dm-pro.
sometimes when i join lately in 16+ i see no sense in running around with mp5 and ping around 200 while all other pings are up and all looks a bit laggy so its really wasting ammo trying to kill with mp5 for me. so yes, in that case i tend to play like bluzes, waiting for for good pus flying around and catch them. at least im medic and try to help where i can, if im in the mood and not pissed...


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Post by General-Chainz » Thu May 31, 2007 7:47 pm

I have noticed a great deal of improvement in the Lag area virtually none for me n e more. And I was even downloading music/movies (censored as you guys would say)had to get pirates 3 At Worlds End and 300. But there is 1 thing I am not comprehending.Everyone is saying how its harder and we die in earlier waves which is true it is harder.But for the last few days I have scored in 3rd 2nd real close to 1st sumtimes. Now Im not saying I suck and not saying im good but sumthing has greatly improved my overall performance not knowing if it may be absence of the lag or if I have jus improved on my own.
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Post by Ortega » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:04 am

Actaully you can't top the score as quick General with a plan jan gun now. A mp5 of 1 isn't going to do it now and that is what I asked for when I started this conquest for the server to be harder. I know it sucks for the new people but some of them get pissed when we lose and act like we owe them a win every time. Even when the server was weak it was a challenge when your the last alive just because you know you have 17 other people watching what you do and your mistakes. I know dreaghon has felt this because he even played safe on a map. But if two people were alive it was no challenge at all and I could stay alive and score in the top 3 with no powerups and just use my mp5 of straight plain.

I know alot of people have helped out by sharing but the powers ups are still being hogged by the lower levels. But they do die sooner and it gives people a chance to use them or pass them on. To win on this server now its going to take a team affert and if people want to cry about not winning they need to look at their game play. People can say I don't share but now I do and I told CJ I would stop being a punk about the Power ups and Rej Guns I got when he uped the server. I even gave a Flak 10 to Mystique last now that was a Rej. and I also passed it out to the server. But 4 days ago, that woulnd't of happened because I didn't need them to win a map.
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Post by Scion » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:19 pm

[quote="draegohn"]


last night, scion, level 165 (or close to this), was nearly kicking my butt with his low slot enhanced ssr while i used high slot flak with blast on a horrible map (small in dimensions but for height, many passages, no long walls or such). he did fantastic under this difficulty, with only 5 players playing, and wasn't hiding even though he was subject to dying at his medium level easily.
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Thank you Drae for compliment :), heh I was only 300 points behind before that nuke went off :(. And the only other person there I think at the end was Rexblade. If you talking about that 15 minute showdown, if that was the one where you gave me a essr which I was grateful for, then I gave back to you when you lost your weapons, I left soon after since it was late. That might would have been fun to watch if I had known it would last that long.
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