Suggestion for Suicide option!

[Cadmium]

hmm submission… Well that’s a bit of a problem. See rumor has it that T-Money has already turned you down. And if that philosopher and boy-lover had that kind of nerve…

I'm getting confused. (sorry for the old joke) So it's NO right? Unless we have no choice (being stuck or something)

IF you truly would disable "suicide" I'd be happy and willing to play within those parameters( frankly it's somewhat exciting as a challenge) but you must also factor jugging which also skews the "chance" factor of the game. Also as mentioned else where in these posts, suicides often have terrible consequences in its use (bad weapons, pu's loss, weapon loss, point loss). In fact I always thought the game was well balanced when it came to suicides, considering these consequences.

There's also suiciding the commandless way, hell I wouldn't mind lowering my DR( if it were that easy... ), just to die faster in those early waves to get my gold back, if wrenches aren't the issue.

But If you see this as an exploit/cheating as opposed to be playing smart then I'm with you. It's just players like me always have to push the envelope when it comes to what we can and can't do. It's all related to how we play: " is it smart to attack this particular enemy, or "is it smart to camp this spot, is it smarter to move around, is it smarter to choose this or that weapon in this particular map, is it smart to not have a backup gold?" Or intead of "is it smart", is it "CAN I do this and that"....etc.. you get the idea.

And IF wrenches aren't the issue than I support Ortega's idea. Becuase that's the main reason I'll ever suicde (unless I get all negative weapons that my single blue wrench can't fix) It's always nice to have an extra incase you get a good summon or something.

Also I'm no chronic suicider, I just had 3 successful games without suiciding and that's not a rare thing. And it's not a big issue since I don't expect to use my gold on anything else these days ( yes even I haven't had the best summon luck)

Anyway please amy or anyone else I'm not complaining, I just want to know and do what I can so that I don't limit myself.

Oh and all the above T-Money info is false!!

[Yourmamma]

if that happens im refunding my points for wrenches cos if you die 3 ,4 or 5 times and lose the wep you had each time you die like i usually do then those wrenches usually save mo fo's from throwing the feckin comp out the damned window

[General-Chainz]

cj, after seeing this thread started a couple days ago, i logged in to play, and joey and chuckles were both on. so i asked joey about it..if suiciding is really seen as a bad thing and worthy of punishment. he said to me that any punishment that should come from it is simply loss of points for suicide...and that unknown risk of losing guns through denial's occasional issues. he says people should have the option to suicide to get better guns, that is why suiciding in rpg invasion has been set up so guns are not lost through the denial (and retention pu here.) i would speak to him about this further perhaps since that is wht he relayed to me

I asked Joey earlier about suiciding and he told me the exact same thing

[Cadmium]

I was just playing suicideless a few hours ago and I noticed even though I had not died OR ressurected once that my gold had come back after I used it. Let me reiterate, I'm very sure that I didn't ressurect after I used my Gold Wrench the first time so It can't be that particular glitch that brought my gold wrench back right?
Anyway I do believe this happens to all of us sometimes but I liked how it just came back by wave 18.

I mention this because this could be one solution to this little problem were having, I wonder if it's possible to make wrenches reappear in later waves, like a reward for staying alive? Maybe even to all players? OR Maybe I' m just to optimistic : (

[cJBlast]

Well that was not my understanding, i will do more checking into it and get back with you guys. and give an official post, but meanwhile,. If i think someone is using suicide for the exploit, and we know about it. Action will be taken.

I still say its cheating,, but i could be wrong . I have been Once before.

So if everyone is going to suicide to get rid of a bad weapon. then we don't need to make the Magic Weapon Maker Buyable. so I won't bother asking joey about it.

I mean if thats the case , whats the use in having the bad weapons in the game at all??? lets just give eveyone WOP 10 and take all the fun out of the game.

[M3RC]

Hey Blue, thats not a bad idea 2 be able buy the ability RPG WeaponMaker with ur stat points, basically like the Wrenches. And can u plz explain 2 me WHY does every single player including u blue have "TunnelVision" with the suiciding. Does anyone understand why ur being told not 2 suicide, cause their isnt NO censored "I" in TEAM, DUMBASS!!! #-o

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[draegohn]

wow, merc actually typed something semi-understandable! the use of the team cliche was weak though, so let me briefly bring something up.

unlike so many of you who cry out for wops and pus over and over, there are those of us like myself who do not wish to ask much from anyone if it can be helped. we feel a sense of accomplishment if we can fend for our own map-long evolution of weapons and at the same time be able to assist others. this is cadmium's way and my way as well, and it keeps the game going at a pace we like. most of you have played with me before and you know you don't hear me ask for much, but rather see me going around doing what i can for others and handing out all excess pus, desired pus (like the wonder ssr mini pu) or even extra gun that is setup with some basics for those who came in mid-map. this is how we work for the TEAM, by doing what we can without having to divert anything from another..so we do rely on some self-sufficience so that the rest can benefit.

many of you go cowardly when a wand appears and run and hide immediately, but who notices those who try to get that wand before it can take others out? who sees little old drae with his mp5 of protection 1 trying to take out a wand smith on wave 8 by himself so that it is no worry for anyone else? who witnesses the individuals who forget mass-killing and go right for the biggest threats to the team when such enemies appear?

we have our way of being and fighting the best we can on this server while at the same time trying to help out other people. i will not let things pass quietly without saying something in the defense of players who exemplify the best kind of team play while also coming out on top.

sure, it may be fun to try and dishonor and hurt the reputations of certain people. but what does it say about yourself when you try to do such things to a person who illustrates what it is to be the best they can, for themselves and for other people they feel they have a responsibility to in order to succeed?

perhaps the reason is that since there hasn't been much presence of kurt, t-money, coke, etc with which many have enjoyed picking apart for their faults in the past that attention is then turned to others so that such actions can help make one keep feeling better about themselves.

yes, go ahead too and criticize i again wrote another long post that noone is going to read through..after all, only a strong mind is able to hold attention to anything worthwhile.

in summary: i am tired of people judging and demeaning others without knowing a good portion of the facts involved or how somebody really is, whether it is real life or brought to a place online like here where such stupid things shouldn't really exist since it is JUST A GAME. if one wants to have the need to right the wrongs of others they see on this server, i suggest you only invest the energy for people who act like true jerks. nobody is a perfect individual and picking others apart only fosters more negativity which is not needed

damnit, just try and have fun with others here, especially those of us who have played together for some time now and the newer people who are actually worthwhile playing along side

[General-Chainz]

Ok then well half say suiciding is bad and half say it is ok (I'm on the its ok side :D ) . Ok yes I agree suiciding for 18 waves and then actually doing sumthing the last 2 waves is jus retarded.so ok heres a idea can we put a limit on suicide. like 5 times then when you type suicide a 6th time it jus wont let you itll say you reached your limit or sumthing so then u have 5 times out of 20 waves to suicide get your gold back whatever is it possible to code a feature like that?

The RPG Weapon maker should be buyable for probably a costly price but hey not everything can be cheap.the fact that it breaks after 2 uses though i wouldnt be spending my points on it. Maybe if there was a timer or sumthing on it so you could use it later but not abuse it. Liek make it so u can use twice but then it goes gray till you pick up batteries for it or sumthing . So theres a chance to use it again .or code it like levels like for a level 10 to gain a level they need like 200/200 points have another point bar that doubles everytime you use it when its filled you can use it again.

it doesnt seem liek jus adding the RPG weapon maker is gonna fix things to me cause peeps will use it and what if they dont get nothing off it? Guess what SUICIDE for the same reason we are having this discussion
if there is a way to recharge the weapon amker im all for it

[airrrr man]

I mean if thats the case , whats the use in having the bad weapons in the game at all??? lets just give eveyone WOP 10 and take all the fun out of the game.

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[TheSynGame]

Well that was not my understanding, i will do more checking into it and get back with you guys. and give an official post, but meanwhile,. If i think someone is using suicide for the exploit, and we know about it. Action will be taken.

I still say its cheating,, but i could be wrong . I have been Once before.

So if everyone is going to suicide to get rid of a bad weapon. then we don't need to make the Magic Weapon Maker Buyable. so I won't bother asking joey about it.

I mean if thats the case , whats the use in having the bad weapons in the game at all??? lets just give eveyone WOP 10 and take all the fun out of the game.

Get over it. Suiciding is not banned. It's not even cheating either. Cheating is reconnecting just to get a good wop. You are sacrificing a full wave just to get a good wop.

If I get a shitty wop, I'm still gonna suicide. It doesn't lag the game. Joey even said wtf.... I was there when drae asked it.

P.S. I'm still the best on this server. Ask RIP... GG.